Michelle McManus - Laughing-Stock Idol 2003

Posted at 8:24 PM on 21 December 2003

Congatulations to Michelle McManus - you might not be able to sing but cloth-eared Brits voted for you anyway. Good luck for the future. You'll need it.

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Comments on "Michelle McManus - Laughing-Stock Idol 2003"

not very happy with this year's result then huh?

shrugs

My Mrs. thinks I'm turning into Pete Waterman :-)

I think you mean cloth-eared Scots. not Brits.

Your are all a bunch of sad children slagging of a perfectly good singer just because a person who you liked didnt win pop idol this women was fantastic she sang all this time, on the radio and the meaning of love fantastic and she deserved to win the whole thing just because of her weight people slag her of like u in the end u just didnt like the fact that she won because she is the best on the night, want some advice "GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!" BEFORE U GET MORE ANGRY POSTS. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I admit to not having watched the thing, but why did "she deserve[d] to win the whole thing just because of her weight"?!?! I thought it was supposed to be about singing, not whether someone had eaten enough food to survive the winter ...

This is a very sad affair, why are you arguing over this? If you dont like her music dont buy it! Nevertheless im sure she's going to be a multi millionaire and your not! So you've got your come uppence for your childish and hurtful remark!

more likely she'll be fleeced by the likes of waterman and co, before being cast aside by the oh so fickle british media.

you can tell I am bored today can't you?

listen here im from glasgow in scotland from michelles home town andn im proud 2 be scottish we aint clothe eared scots and u english are pigs who think u ca rule the country well think agin MATE u are all PIGS. well done to michelle who won just because u wanted your english to win well u are all giving ur selfs a showing up.

well said lauren (is that a girl or boys name ?, we scotch certainley showd them English people a thing about singing and beauty. Cant stop long Ive run out of buckie............hic

Quote: "we scotch certainley showd them English people a thing about singing and beauty"

Yeah - I think you showed us that it doesn't exist in Scotland.

I can't wait to hear Michelle's cover of 'Who ate all the pies'

I think that people are getting it all wrong here.Whether she is fat or thin, it should all be about the singing.Other people sang better than Michelle but people are now saying 'Thank god that someone normal can win'.
This is very sad, as it is not normal to be overweight (in her case obese) and one of the main problems that the British have is the increasingly high number of overweight youths.
This is causing major health and economic problems and should definitely not be encouraged.Very few people are fat because they are ill: most are because they overeat and don't exercise.
I find it appalling that someone who portrays this is found to be 'brave' and other such things, when she should be made see the truth and start living healthily.

Scotch people are so sad aren't they. They all vote for Fatty just because she's from Scotland. It's always the same. Scotch idiots just resent the English because history has proved we're better than they are. They really shouldn't be trusted with running their own country.
As for Fatty, well she's so utterly talentless that I think she'll have disappeared by March. Still, no doubt she'll spend the rest of her life singing at Scotch weddings to tone-deaf English hating brainwashed Jocks.

Just so people don't get the wrong impression I'd like to make it clear that I have nothing against overweight people. If you recall there were TWO large ladies in Pop Idol, the aforementioned Fatty from Scotland and also there was Kym from England. Kym actually had quite a good voice (unlike Fatty's nasally whine). Kym also had an engaging personality and knew how to make the best of herself with regard to her physical appearance. By contrast it must be said that Fatty is stone cold pot ugly and about as appealing as the backside of a hippopotamus. I'm sure that if they were honest with themselves most Scotch people would agree with me that she is totally ghastly.

I cannot see what all the English people are whinning about. Its quite simple really, the best person won the contest, if the people down past the wall take it personally then that makes no difference. The English have always whinged when we beat them and they always will......

I think some of you here are really mean! You're slagging Michelle off because of her weight! Why do you have to do that? Why can't you just be happy for her? She's got loads of talent and will last for years!

scotch = drink
scot = person

no?

(just dotting the 'i's...)

Well I think everyone who has posted bitchy comments should get a bloody grip. Michelle CAN sing, she's not the most attractive bird ever but she can sing. As for Scots, we are British, just like the English and the sooner you lot realise that, the better. Now grow up, and give Michelle a break, she was best on the night and deserved it that night. Yes, I think other people deserved to win overall but she was best on the night. If you don't like her music, DON'T BUY IT. There... Problem solved!!

The problem with Fatty winning is that people from other countries might see her (for example
there could be a World Idol 2 contest) and this is going to be deeply embarrassing for us English folks. Americans ain't too hot on the geography and most of them think Scotland is in England. They'll see useless Fatty murdering some classic song and they're going to be sniggering at England and thinking that we're rubbish. And it'll be the fault of those stupid braindead Scotch morons who boted for her in the first place. I think if World Idol 2 DOES happen we're going to have to find some way to substitute Roxanne in place of Fatty. To save face and prevent us from being a laughing stock. Does anyone agree we should start up a petition for this?

Bless her, she ain't that bad a singer. She is a bit of a minger though, I (like that queeny German dresser they had, Mads or whatever his name was) would have changed my sexual preference for Susanne, but definately not for her. I have a feeling that the most money she's going to make is from the lucrative world of modelling for Evans. I bet Mark wouldn't have spent his winnings on deep fried mars bars and cans of special brew.
I suspect Michelle will be spotted by Heat magazine in a couple of years time trying in vain to get into a party with Narinder and Penny from Big Brother.

MESSAGE FOR ABOVE POST "AMANDA" I BET IF U WERE STANDING INFRONT OF ME I COULD EASILY SLAG U OFF AND RIGHT NOW ID LOVE TO DO IT! U SOUND AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT LOW-LIFE GROW UP! U SILLY IDIOT!

SORRY MY COMMENT WAS FOR PAOLO!!!! U SAD LOW LIFE.

People may think I have been a trifle harsh with regard to my comments concerning Fatty but I am
genuinely concerned that her appearance at a World Idol 2 event would put Britain in a bad light.
I'm thinking that if we start e-mailing Simon Cowell's record company at this early stage then
we may be able to prevent this debacle from occurring. It seems to me that Roxanne in particular would be a far more appealing repesentative for Britain. If any readers of this message are in doubt please let me five you five good reasons why.

1) Roxanne is a fit bird. Fatty, on the other hand, is about as alluring as Elton John's arsehole hairs.

2) Roxanne is refined and sophisticated. Fatty, on the other hand, is a loud and vulgar beer guzzling ladette. A very bad role model for young citizens.

3) Roxanne has a sweet and melodious voice. Fatty's voice is like listening to a pneumatic drill when you've got a hangover.

4) Roxanne is from England. Fatty, on the other hand, is from Scotland. :(

5) Roxanne has a beautiful smile. Fatty, on the other hand, doesn't.

So you see, Roxanne is SUPERIOR IN EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT. As I've said before, people from other
countries will be watching this event and Fatty's participation will paint England in a most unfavourable light. It's not enough for us to say "Oh well she's from Scotland actually, that's why she's so awful."
Because, we, in England, might know that Scotch people are generally less talented and sophisticated but citizens in other countries will make no such distinction. They will tar us all with the same brush. The participation of a well fit young woman like Roxanne is what is needed and would make England a very appealing destination for tourists. It might even strengthen our Olympic bid. These things are very important.

I think that next year the Pop Idol results must be done via a regional points system to put an end
to this silly nationalistic voting from the lesser countries.

YES, she has won! YES, she can sing! YES, so what if she is over weight?!! and YES, she is normal!

BUT....

NO, she was not the best! NO, she is not unique! NO, she is not an artist! NO, she has no glamour or big personality...

OK! Strangely enough as I was writing this Michelle's video came up on the box and I must admit I was touched, but it is not by Michelle, but by the story of a "dream come true" and the video is very much about it as it features with her the road to her win, it even featured Susanne Manning at the back a few times and WOW
Susanne is the complete opposite to Michelle; they both see nice and all, but Susanne has what Michelle is lacking. People in their 20's and 30's would have gone to buy Susanne's record; I doubt if they do so with Michelle's.
Reason?
Depth of character, voice, presence and soul.
Sorry people

paolo go away mate ur views are so boring and dont even deserve web space! on the night michelle mcmanus won pop idol more votes were cast than of the previous pop idol show....over ten million infact. in a couple of weeks time michelle mcmanus will have a number 1 single. paolo ur boring now with ur views and for every1 else reading this : do not add fuel to the fire! do not comment or reply any further to these idiots remarks. and maybe hell crawl back under his lonely stone....ATTACK MICHELLE U ATTACK HER FANS!!!!!!AND THERES TEN MILLION OF US MATE!

No there aren't 10 million Michelle McManus fans. 10 million people didn't vote for her. 10 million votes were cast. Most of these votes were cast but multiple voters (how many times did YOU vote for her?), lets say the average number of votes per person was 4 each. that takes the figure down to 2.5 million.
Now, let's say Michelle got 60% of the vote (I REALLY can't see her getting any more than that). from the 2.5 million above, that gives her 1.5 million fans, who care enough to vote for her.

i know the figures are a bit fuzzy, but it proves there definately aren't 10 million of you.

Michelle CAN sing this is shown by the fact she WON pop idol.DUH!!!
And wot is with all the slagging off scotland?Im from england and i voted for her, so????
If you have nothing better 2 do than slag an unknown person off who u know nuthing about, go ahead u sad losers.

Some people hated Will because they wanted Gareth to win, and people like you are doing it with Michelle. She has a good vioce, and that is the reason she won. She isnt crap because a couple of people post it on the internet... The factis that she is good, why else would Millions people vote for her?

And another thing... It wasnt just Scotland who voted for her. England did too. It couldnt have been the Scottish vote, because you are 3 times the size of us. You are the same as that specky fart face Pete Waterman who left in a bad mood because Mark didnt win.. If they are going to be sore losers about Michelle winning, let them.

The people who are slagging people off really need a life!!
Firstly ok so Michelle may not be the skinnest in the world but She is very talented and that Whats is the most important thing here, she didn't enter a slimming-world contest she entered a Singing contest(or Are most of you forgetting that here?)

Everyone has there opinions if you want to slag michelle off then slag her off but your just wasting your time because most english and scotish people will support her, wether you 'bitchy' people like it or not.

What has Being a better country got to do with Michelle? BIG DEAL if your country is better, as if we care, England will be remembered in History for winning the world war 1 and 2!!So we have something to be proud of, as well!! but if i wanted to brag about our country i wouldn't come here to do it.And no-one can actually say another country is better than another just because america might have a piece of equipment that britain don't have, russia could have a piece of equipent that america don't have, wip a dee do dar day just cause you've got a piece a paper that says 'BEST COUNTRY' OR WHATEVER doesn't exactly make you the best country just because you've got something more hi~teched!

Well back to my point in the first place.

Ok like someone said michelle may not have 10 million fans but saying 4 votes for each peron wouldnt exactly work because someone could of voted 3 times whereas someone else could of voted once so if you share that between the 2 of them you get 2 votes each.
So lets say 2 votes for each peron that makes 5 million fans
and lets say about 70% of the vote (since mark only got 30 or something like that) So that would make michelle with around 3 to 3 and a half million fans!

The person who is getting 'frills over Roxanne then go and post them somewhere else this is to do with michelle notRoxanne, so what is she was skinny but doesn't popstars being fin cause a bad influence on teenagers? Yep it sure does will be your anser, you see i don't understand some people one minute there moaning about Skinny popstars being wrong for teenagers and saying skinny popstars shouldnt engourage teens to diet so at long final last we get somone different and you still go off in a huff well heres some words for you 'thing before you speak' And for god sake make up your mind.

Also You have no idea if michelle drinks alot of beer and ethier does anyone else, for all you roxanne could be a heathy drinker after all she is young!Michelle has a nice smile it' probably alot better than yours!And Scotland is so close to England that many people just class it as England, It doesn't really matter where anyone cae from there still a human being!

I am not scottish but i will stick up for them and they are not sad they are down to earth people just like SOME of you here, But getting to the pont of this paragraph It wasnt just scottish people who voted it was England as well, and if you don't like that then TUFF!

How do you know theres going to be a world idol 2?If there is it won't put a bad influence on England we voted her(and so did the scottish)SO THAT MEANS WE WANTED HER AND ARE PROUD OF HER, We don't care what other people think, that up to them, but she will have our support a 100% of the way!

True brit you said you can't wait till Michelle's cover version of 'who ate all the pies' Well you'll be waiting along time m8!!And if she did do it Your name would come up some where!

The scottish didnt have to show us they had great singers we already knew and we like michelle scottish or english!

And also chris your the one with cloth-ears mate, anyone who things michelle cant sing has cloth-ears, if you were blind u'd sure like her then!!
Forget about her weight and thing about her voice!(But like i said before your opinion is your opinion!)

ive watched pop idol from the start n my first impressions was "ugh look at michelle" but then i realised it all counted on the voice not appearence i mean its not called pop idol for nothing is it?! michelle has a great vioce but i have to admit she doesnt really look like a pop idol where as sam,mark,roxanne,chris and the rest of the final 10 did apart from kym

I didnt say she couldnt sing, Im 100% with her. I think it is great that someone who is no supermodel can win a big compition like Pop Idol. It just shows you some decent parts of our counrty vote on her vioce.

Okay I want people to know Im not the person who said Michelle was bad. So I will start putting -'s around my name, I didnt know there was another guy called Chris.
News just in... Do you know Michelle was the most requested song on the Box this week! So us cloth eared Brits must want to hear her a whole lot more. Idiot.

Why do people keep saying that "Oh those idiot Scots vote for Michelle and not Mark" DUH! And again like I have said, England outnumbers Scotland toatally, So it aint the Scottish vote she got.

I agree with all those English people that are sticking up for Michelle, she may be fat, the person who chose her clothes for the TV made her look even worse so when she loses a few stones and sorts out her nasally voice I am sure she will do well.

Bonny Scotchland

TO ALL U DUMB ENGLISH PEOPLE, U MAY THINK THAT U R BETTER THAN US SCOTS, BUT NO. JUST BECAUSE U HAVE POSH ACCENTS AND WALK AND TALK LIKE SNOBS DOES NOT MEAN U R BETTER. WE HAVE FAR BETTER, MORE SUCCESFUL TALENT SUCH AS ROD STEWART AND LULU. ALSO, WEN WE WIN THINGS, THE ENGLISH ALWAYS SAY "OH THE BRITISH HAVE WON", BUT WEN THE ENGLISH WIN, IT'S "OH THE ENGLISH HAVE WON" STATE OF U! U THINK U R ALL THE BEST, BUT REALLY U JUST HAVE BANANAS STUCK UP UR A***S. GET A LIFE. MICHELLE WAS ALWAYS THE BEST. JUST BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A POP IDOL (YET), NOR TAKE UR FANCY DOES NOT GIVE U THE RIGHT TO SLAG HER. AND ANYWAY WHY SHOULDN'T SHE HAVE? WILL WAS GAY LAST YEAR AND HE WON. HOW MANY GAY SINGERS DO U KNOW? HE BROKE THE MOULD, SO WHY CAN'T MICHELLE?

GIVE HER A CHANCE, AND SHUT UP! AT LEAST SHE'S GOT ONE FAN, ME!

I've been reading everyone's comments with interest. It certainly can't be disputed that Michelle's win has made people think about and reconsider the whole concept of a pop idol. That is no bad thing. Michelle's appearance is one aspect of her, not the totality of what she is. It's as unimportant as the colour of her eyes. Not so many years ago, the accepted wisdom by those who were so called in the know was that white people would never buy music by black artists. Times change. Talent will triumph, regardless of race, religion, nationality, size or social background. When will people realise that? The material issue is that she can sing, can engage an audience and entertain people.

But back to the essential point. I love Michelle's voice - she was one of a few contestants this year who were able to display vocal talents consistently in each genre, showing a real versatility and determination. Her bubbly personality and ability to be herself also appealed to many. This opinion was shared by enough people to make her the pop idol.

As noted by many above, the population of Scotland would make it nigh impossible for her to have won on the strength of the Scottish vote alone. And to try to win a argument about a singer by harking back to old worn and frankly uninteresting arguments about Scotland v England is so passe and futile that it only reflects badly on those trying to do so. They obviously have no other way of winning their argument - ie have no way to articulate their opinion with clarity and conviction let alone facts and truth. And they need to read a history book, if they believe that Scots have not been key in shaping the world as we know it.

Chris why lie about what you said it's in your post and ill post it again for you! You said on the 21st december 2003 at 08:24pm:Congatulations to Michelle McManus - you might not be able to sing but cloth-eared Brits voted for you anyway. Good luck for the future. You'll need it. The words are there chris so theres no point in lying mate.

Also 'wee scottish lass' i am with you scottish people 110% i've got scottish in my blood!! i said in my post i was with you, and 'us english' as you say don't say oh the english have won we say yer michelle has won, ignore the ignorant bitchy english people that don't know shit! It wasn't just scotland who voted it was the england as well,if it was just scotland then she wouldn't have won, so don't think it was just you, read everyones posts befor you speak ay? otherwise your going to be writing all the wrong things on your posts!

I hope you take theis in a friendly matter

Yes, Chris is an awful liar isn't he. Fancy not having the bottle to stand up for one's
original convictions.

Anyway, ignoring one or two illiterate idiots the general consensus seems to be that Fatty
only won due to excessively jingoistic voting by the Scotch nation. Normally I would just
shrug my shoulders and roll my eyes and leave it at that.

However, there is one really big problem. Pop Idol may be over but now Fatty is about to
release a record. I know, I know, what an appalling prospect. This is horrendous news.
We thought Fatty was over but now we're gouing to have to endure her nasally whine and
ugly fizzog all over again. Apparently advance sales south of the border amount to
only fifty copies but unfortunately Scotch sales will be added in so the record will probably
make the top forty. :( Why can't the Scotch have their own charts and not cause problems with
ours? The only consolation is that Fatty's career will be over by March but it could be
a ghastly next few months. :(

Just to point out, whilst it is no doubt entertaining to read stupid people praising/slating Michelle for being Scottish/overweight/an excellent singer/a dreadful singer/an example to us all/etc. there is more than one person called "Chris" posting to this thread. READ THE COMMENTS.

Anyway, an aside:

Note to Scottish people who think English people are snobs, idiots, whatever: I don't care that you're Scottish. Moronic, racist posts such as yours slur your entire nation.

Note to English people who think Scottish people are thick, ignorant, whatever: I don't care that you're English. Moronic, racist posts such as yours slur your entire nation.

Thanks go to all the non-retards who managed to post comments without resorting to some age-old, half-baked arguments that serve no purpose either here or anywhere else.

Just to set the record straight, I don't have a problem with Michelle being either Scottish or overweight, or her personality. Simply: I don't like her singing voice. That's all. My entire objection in a nutshell. At least she can sing in tune. Much better than most of the other contestants on Pop Idol. (I may also have stated elsewhere that she is also quite ugly, but then so am I -- and it takes one to know one).

But my point is, regardless of how well she can sing in tune, her voice makes my ears bleed. I cringe everytime she goes for a high note. I have to turn the sound down on the telly when she's on in case a particularly resonant shriek shatters my glassware. I simply cannot listen to her sing. Something about her voice grates me up the wrong way, and I can't believe that others haven't noticed it too.

All the same, she won fair and square. More people voted for her than anyone else, and complaining about it isn't going to help. Is she going to have a long and successful career in the music business? No, I don't think so. I could still be proven wrong, but it seems less than likely she'll be troubling the top ten in twelve months unless she really ups her game and learns how to sing from her diaphragm rather than her throat.

Until she manages that, I will regard her in the same light as I do Blazin' Squad and Gareth Gates. I'll just hope there isn't a World Idol 2. (Well done Kurt, btw!)

P.S. To the Wee Scottish Lass who said, "WE HAVE FAR BETTER, MORE SUCCESFUL[sic] TALENT SUCH AS ROD STEWART AND LULU", thank you for making me laugh more than anyone else in years!

Well thanks Chris for making your argument without the racist whinings of those such as Paol. I appreciate that your opinion is that Michelle's vocal stylings are not to your liking and that your opinion is not based on ridiculous objections based on her appearance or nationality.

But it is only an opinion, as is mine, and each individual who has posted here. I think we have to remember one essential point - singing and music is entirely a subjective thing. What some people really like can be nothing short of awful to some others. That's why we need variety in our industry - to provide something for everyone. While I detest the likes of Busted and Blazin Squad and S Club and Atomic Kitten, they are obviously fitting some niche and catering to a demand that is out there.And so I accept their existence, and just choose not to buy their music. I suggest that those who don't like Michelle do the same, rather than whinge about it.

I do like Michelle and I like her style of singing. I find it engaging and emotionally moving. I agree she can probaby do with more work in terms of increasing her range and how to present a song, but she never claimed to be professional, and these are things that are learned as artists mature and progress. I hope she manages to do this, as well as choosing to have the right songs and surrounding herself with the right people in order to maintain a successful career. And I wish her all the best in that.

you are so sad. i bet your no oil painting.
what does it matter what size michelle is when its her music people are buying.
she has a great voice and looks nice in what she wears.
you must have a really boring life or 2 much time on your hands if you have time to sit around thinking about somebody elses wieght.

i have something to say to paolo you deserved to be slapped! don't dare call Michelle fatty because she may be a overweight but that doesn't give you the right to call her fatty. No-one is perfect and what do you have against scottish people? I am 100% scottish and i am proud of it!! even if Michelle does enter World Idol 2 she will do scotland proud and have you not seen the american idol Ruben Studdard? he is probably heavier than michelle and he has the voice of an angel and if he enters World Idol 2 i don't think america would become a laughing stock because of Ruben's weight and neither will Scotland!! I know Michelle has lots of fans who are proud of her ME AND ALL OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WERE BACKING HER ALL THE WAY

FACT: michelle is scottish. FACT: michelle won pop idol 2. FACT: michelle will undoubtably have a number 1 single next week. FACT: English people love michelle just as much as Scottish people (who cares about shes scottish this is no big deal unless ur a biggoted english man...really no issue here eh?)....GO GIRL! UR LOVED IN ENGLAND TOO! LOVE YA! X X X X X X X X X X

NOBODY...i repeat NOBODY on this years Pop Idol is half as talented as Will Young...and no way will Michelle be celebrating a second number 1 album and having a 4 th number 1 single with a brit award under her belt like Will Young!

You english are a shower of TWATS. From the first moment I heard Michelle, I knew she was going to win. When someone outsings everyone else on the show then they deserve to win. Its that simple. The other singers were nothing compaired to Michelle. She not only out sung them, her personality out shone them also. So well done to Michelle for showing you english how to do it!!
Come on SCOTLAND.

Well, what can I possibly say about the comments posted on this page???

Whoever you are think back to a time when someone said something nasty about you....it isn't very nice is it ? Michelle did not enter Pop Idol to upset people and it was not her choice to win. People from both England and Scotland voted on the night and that is why Michelle won, so don't take it out on her.

Why should anyone care about her appearance, I am sure it is constantly buzzing around her head now that she has been catapulted into the public eye. A bit of encouragement would help.

Paulo - isn't that an Italian name ???? You are obviously a sad young lad who has nothing better to do, are you obese and ugly by any chance ?? ha ha

Watch out for wrist strain !

I'M BACK!

OK, so maybe I went slightly far the ;last time, but I still think I have a point, the english don't adjust to scottish winners well.

Anyway, if u think Rod Stewarts bad, then think about all the english crap we've had to listen to over the years:

- Fast Food Rockers
- Gareth Gates
- Victoria Beckham's returns to fame
- Jennifer Ellison
- Alex Parks
- Hear'say
- One True Voice
*** and to top it off, Jordan wants a singing career. Also, look at all the failed soap actors that think music careers are what they should try next. Give us all a break....

I'm not saying all english music is bad, but most scottish artists produce at least 'decent' records.

Don't get me wrong, I like some english music, just not all of it, and im not an english hater either, some are nice, but some just don't get it...

Whoever said that Michelle should be living a healthy life cant read every magazine that is out and features her Michelle lost 4st to appear in Pop Idol and is continuing to lose weight the healthy wait not like other celebrities who crash diet on Atkins Diets and other fads, my 3 daughters love Michelle and I think she is a good role model for them for 2 reasons 1) She is happy to be herself, who many people do u know who genuinely feel that way 2) She prove u can do anything if u put the work in, I was also a big Mark fan until he was in the final with Michelle. Michelle will be a big star, her voice is fantastic, look at Will everyone said he would bomb because he was Gay, he didnt. Look at Kurt who won World Idol, he wasnt astunner but his voice was amazing. Even if Michelle hadnt of won she would always have been my Pop Idol. So as us Scottish say to all Michelle haters "Git it right up ye" haha

I have read this board and found it so funny. I think the Scottish and English thing is not what matters. What matters is that Michelle was not the best singer and due to her appearence she had won the on the sympathy vote. I don't think thats fair on her nor the other contestants. Chances are she will bomb and no one will buy her single now. What a waste of time for all the others who took part in Pop Idol for the right reasons! Has anyone thought how Michelle going to feel after she has bombed...Flop Idol?

Good luck to her, I dont think she looks good at all, but at the same time, I don't wish her bad, I hope it works out. I just dont see it going any further for her. Bring back Sam and the others who were fantastic! People, please stop the Scottish/English divide, where you come from is not the issue here..it's about people and their lives..Peace and I hope you will all forget your differences..please..Thanks

come now sing with me
proper chrimbo
so excited you might wee

After reading all posts I think it is safe to say that Michelle CAN sing.

Obviously people seem to think different things.

Anyway, If she did get the sympathy vote because of her weight, hy wasn't kym second?

I think Michelle is a really good singer, although not quite the pop idol most had thought of, I think that favourites were a big issue in this year's voting and hopefully she'll succeed.

P.S. I also think that Pete waterman is a big imature child. He walked out of the set just because Michelle won, well wake up pete!

Also, She must have talent as she bet 19, 950 other people into the final 50, and 19,999 to win it!

Note to Chris: accept it.

Well if we are the topic of Michelle McManeater sorry Mcmanus I would like to say that the pop idol position was solely am waste of space. IF wer look at what the shows about we see that it is called POP IDOL not talent search not Looking for a star but POP idol. I will bet monmey with someone that, that girl will not make it beyond one year! Yes she has a good voice BUT so have many other people across the UK can make it just like her. She doesn't have what it takes the only criteria she fits well in to is Good voice, she doesn't have stage presence, she can't dance, and cannot be sexy. Now i am a big girl a size 16 but im not saying i could be the next britney coz i couldn't. The reason people buy peoples Cd's is due to Adoration and talent. Funnily enough people don't buy coz they got a good voice maybe if she mad her own records then she could give it a shot but all she has is a voice!

People at Pop Idol need to wake up and smell the Grease. Michelle Mcmanus is a bad investment the last big POP idol that made it was Alyson Moyet 20 YEARS AGO our society has changed since then and is looking for sex and seduction and adoration as well as a good voice

(also if she has lost 4 1/2 stone I am Britney Spears! She has put on wieght not lost it!

Jayde x

what a sad reflection on today's society, i would imagine that the average age of people posting comments here is about 12,
Children of the future...Pop music is dead...go read a book...live your life....travel the world

does anyone remember why punk happened ?

(susanne was the only talented one.....she is warm)

Hahahahhahahaha. She might have a tiny bit of talent, but she is no pop idol. I can see it now ... Top of the pops, she will be singing, but everyone would have to look the other way just incase they throw up.

SHES SO FAT

Sorry that last comment just blurted out without any real thought. This board is so funny though, and it is great that there are two sides to this arguement.

Can she sing? Maybe.
Is she fit? No.
Is she scary? Yes.

I mean, what would you do if you were walking down a street and then Michelle McManeater (credits to Justina) came running up behind you with a bib, a knife and a fork, and screaming "I'm going to eat you!!!". That would be the most perfect cliché of McManeater.

The only reason she has an album now is that a bunch of brain washed small minded record producers are convinced she is quite popular to talk about, not because she sings. Hell she hasn't even produced a single yet (has she?). I dunno, I walk away whenever she is on television. So i suggest for her sake STOP TRYING. If McManeater is reading this, then letting you know now, step back from the spot light, the more you try and hold onto it with your podgy hands the more people will laugh at you.

If you lose weight, and im talking about 13 stone, then you might get credit. For one I can't look at her. I am so surprised people voted for her in pop idol, and yesa i do believe it was a sympathy vote. BLATENTLY. It only takes one person whos good enough to convince people she deserves to win, and then you find fat people voting for her 30 times. Fucking unbelieveable

RESPECT EVERY1 FOR THEIR OWN MUSICAL AND PERSONAL TASTES. IF EVERY1 WAS THE SAME, LIKED THE SAME THINGS AND SANG THE SAME TYPE OF MUSIC THERE WOULD BE NO AGUMENT HERE. I BELIEVE MICHELLE IS VERY TALENTED AND FOR ALL YOU CRITICS WHO HAVE SLATED HER ON THIS SITE I RESPECT UR VIEWS ALTHOUGH EVERY1 HAS THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE AND SOME OF THE PEOPLES VIEWS OBVIOUSLY SHOW LACK OF INTELLIGENCE. QUOTE FROM "THE SUN" "BIZARRE COLUMN" TUES JAN 6TH : "MICHELLE MCMANUS LOOKS A SAFE BET TO BE NO1 ON SUNDAY WITH HER SINGLE ALL THIS TIME. WOOLWORTHS JIM BACHELOR TOLD ME LAST NIGHT:IT HAS FLOWN OFF THE SHELVES. IF SALES CONTINUE LIKE THIS SHE'S A SURE-FIRE BET FOR THE TOP". IM ABSOLUTELY FED UP AND BORED NOW OF ALL THE INSULTING PERSONAL JIBES REGARDING THE BORING ISSUE OF MICHELLES WEIGHT. WHOEVER POSTS INSULTING SLANG OBVIOUSLY LACKS INTELLIGENCE AND MATURITY.

michelles brill bless her, you sad people out there who cant do anything constructive small minded who just love to slag someone off . she did well like anyone else ..so what if she over weight so what if she bigger than normal pop idols .... time for change you dont she her when ya listenning on the radio, or cd its her voice that counts,, why shouldnt she win ,,,ya just a bunch of jelous arsholes who wouldnt have the talent thenselves to get as far as she has ... and im sure without a dought theres millions out there would agree with me more than the rest of you sad people get a life, people like you that make peoples lives a misery ..ya start by bulling at school you continue to make fun of people at ya first job as ya get older people start to dispise ya and ya die sad and lonely on ya own with noone giving a dame ....harsh words but true...michelle you go girl do ya best ....

HERE HERE SOME GREAT COMMENTS MANDY..I MUST ADMIT
GIVE MICHELLE A BREAK SHE DESERVED TO WIN ON THE NIGHT SHE DONE HER BEST AND PROVED THE ARAGONT MR WATERMAN WRONG GOOD ON HER.. HE SHOULD HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR HER INSTEAD OF WALKING OUT .. SIMON COWEL WILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY OFF MICHELLE AND HE KNOWS IT ..I PRAISE MR NASTY FOR GIVING THE GIRL A CHANCE ..

what the fcuk is this world coming to? i thought this was a forum for michelle mcmanus, but instead it's a load of bullshitters doing what they do best - gobbing off - michelle IS talented and anyone with half an ear can tell that,
people slag michelle off - but would you have the guts to go on pop idol at all? i am english, and voted for michelle twice because i think she's brilliant, and i would have voted for her with a voice like that wherever she came from, i wish her all the luck in the world and i hope she goes far becasue she had the guts to say "i'm not exacally thin, but i'm i'm gonna do it anyway" you slag of michelle because of her weight, but i thought we - england ireland scotland and wales - were a better country than that, if she couldn't sing she wouldn't have won, over 20 million people voted overall and i think that if that many people voted, they cant all be wrong, can they?

I wish her every success with miming to other peoples songs and releasing at least 1 album. I myself will buy the album in March when it is in the bargain bin in Woolies as I didnt get the coasters I was after for Christmas.

it IS funny slagging off michelle. You know why? Because people like you defend her.

btw she won through sympaphy vote.

Here here to sarah. the woman speaks the truth!! Michele is talented and she should be praised for that not critised abt her weight. I think Simon Cowell did the right thing standing up for her. susanne could not sing and never will be able to so everyone who is saying she can are deaf Michelle was the true pop idol and i am glad she won!!!!!

YOu know what, Michelle won, because she is our pop idol. Hense the name Pop Idol. Do you know another thing? The Lowlife Bozo that owns this site wanted it popular, and we done it for him. People like us defending Michelle made his crappy little forum popular. So if these bunch of saddos want to dis a perfectly good singer let them. When we reply to thier piontless and ass headed slaggings about her, it gives them something to go on about. So screw them and go to a michelle fansite.

Hi, I would just like 2 say that michelle was no way the best singer. I think the whole Pop Idol competition was a fix. What d'ya know as soon as Simon Cowell likes Michelle, all the rivals get voted off. Simon Cowell was the inventor and can do what he likes with the show. The first rival to go was Andy, then Roxanne (who by the way should have won by miles)and Susanne went when she should have at least been in the top three. Then to keep the show still exciting, they keep Sam in till the very last minute, then vote him off. Leaving Michellle to thrash poor, talentless Mark.

im sick n tired of ppl calling us brits 'dumb clotheared brits' i dont see the point.just becoz michelle is from scotland doesnt mean british ppl didnt vote for her!

What a crap site.... anyone who thinks Michelle cant sing is either deaf or dumb or in the case of the guy who has this site..... BOTH.

Okay. Why do I think Michelle can't sing? After all, I've already pointed out that - unlike some of the others who made it through to the final 12 - she can sing in tune.

I should also admit to exaggerating my opinions somewhat as - let's face it - nobody with any real talent made it into the final three. Which is a great shame. But in a country that can vote Westlife's "Mandy" as "Single of the Year", when the only song we'll be hearing from 2003 in a decade's time is Christina Aguilera's "Beautiful", I should hardly be surprised.

And there's one last thing I should admit. Whilst I really can't stand to listen to Michelle's voice, I genuinely hope she succeeds and does well and wish her all the best. But that two million pound record deal she won will go a long way - she'll certainly not be wanting for a deep-fried mars bar anytime soon, eh? ;-)

But why don't I like her voice? For me, it's simple. For a big lass, her voice lacks a remarkable amount of depth. She tends to warble, and frequently veers into adenoidal territory. That's not to say she won't improve - give it a few years, some decent singing lessons, and her voice might really mature into something special - but right now, I can't see her career lasting that long.

But even more problematic, she never sounds committed to a song. She never elevates it beyond the notes she's required to sing - listen to Britney Spear's breakthrough record, "Hit Me Baby One More Time" - she probably doesn't even have half the voice of Michelle, but her commitment to the vocal is astonishing. It elevates the song to something very special indeed. Michelle has not for a moment indicated she's capable of doing that.

So beyond a week or two at the top of the charts with her first single (and probably album), she's got her work cut out to avoid the path to obscurity beaten by "One True Voice".

And for those of you who think I'm running this site purely for your benefit, please don't post. If the ability to hold an adult conversation is beyond you, don't respond. Your inane comments won't be missed.

That is all.

Why do people think that anyone who doesn't like Michelle's voice are wrong? She sings down her nose and Roxanne has a better voice by far. Roxanne was robbed.

Michelle's voice grates on my ears, I used to make a cup of tea when it was her turn on Pop Idol.

There is only one reason why Michelle won; most of the people who voted for her are fat and ugly themselves, they didn't vote because they like her whiny voice. They voted to prove a point. All the fat and lazy greedy guzzling housewives and single mums who slob out on the couch on a Saturday night and watch TV and stuff their fat faces voted for her.

Unfortunately for Simon Cowell, those same women don't buy as many CD's as the teenagers, so he will soon tire of his new novelty act. Thank God!

"And for those of you who think I'm running this site purely for your benefit, please don't post. If the ability to hold an adult conversation is beyond you, don't respond. Your inane comments won't be missed." - chris

your doing a great job of keeping me amused at work. Please, let people be nasty to McManeater

K3vin - yeah, me too :-)

Besides - nothing I can say will stop people posting vacuous dribblings about why Michelle is the best and I am just plain wrong anyway.

But it's my site and I am allowed to vent!

If Women want to move away from their true vocation in life (The Kitchen) and into the Public eye , the least they can do is look Pretty ... As far as I am concerned the fact that she can sing is largely irrelevant , What I want from Female "Singers" is to see them writhing around on the floor , showing plenty of cleavage and Leg , breathing Sexily and keeping themselves nice ... I cannot accept that Michelle could pull this off , so what is the point .. Pass the Bucket

It seems that these days to be a pop star and be in the charts all you need to do is be able to sing..the song writing is secondary therefore you get a handful of song writers employed by record companies churning out bland songs for these people..how I laughed when I found out all 3 finalists had recorded the same song so it could be instantly be released by the winner..I hope Michelle manages to lose her weight for the sake of the other passengers on the cruise ships.

I feel sorry for sclub8 having to use the toillet after her on top of the pops the other week

Michelle does have a powerful voice, but i personally dont think its very nice to listen to. It is baffling to think that she even made it to the final. The same goes for Mark, he's even worse than michelle(obviously).
There were much better singers,performers,lookers than the two disgusting finalists.
But now we will have our radio listening littered with a whine by a fat Celine Dion wannbe!

ps does anybody else think that Michelle looks like the nanny from the cartoon Count Duckula?

all i'll say is at least it's not marc. and she's not gay.

all i can say is all of you useless people who don't appriciate good music should be slapped! Michelle had one of the best voices i have heard in a while although i do think Sam was one of the best Michelle deserved to win!! and also "Mick McManus in Drag" all of the people who voted for her are not all fat and ugly because me and my friend both voted for her and neither of us is fat of ugly!!!

message for k3vin i guess from ur lack of intellegence and sick sence of humour ur into the cheeky girls and sclub8. its ok mate some1 comes along abit more talented (i.e michelle) and ur worried about the competition in the charts. on here count all the support for michelle and weigh it against the people against her....face it ur losing the argument m8! or should i say ur boring comments are!

ABOVE POST FOR THE ATTENTION OF CHRIS

hahahahahaha.

aha

"i guess from ur lack of intellegence and sick sence of humour ur into the cheeky girls and sclub8" - Carl

Well what sort of person do you have to be to enjoy looking at Michelle McUglyPleasePutMeOutOfMyMisery, eh? Wouldn't you rather look at the cheeky girls? Oh right .. your one of those guys that likes looking at fat porkers on stage. It is time for you to stop crying at come to reality ... I am willing to put money down that a good majority of the UK, who were also over weight like Michelle or feel depressed because they are like Michelle in some way feel like she is some burden, and that to put their strong feminist point across they voted atleast 5 times.

There was a reason that Pete walked off stage. Perhaps he was the only sane person in the box.

hahahahahaha.

aha

"i guess from ur lack of intellegence and sick sence of humour ur into the cheeky girls and sclub8" - Carl

Well what sort of person do you have to be to enjoy looking at Michelle McUglyPleasePutMeOutOfMyMisery, eh? Wouldn't you rather look at the cheeky girls? Oh right .. your one of those guys that likes looking at fat porkers on stage. It is time for you to stop crying at come to reality ... I am willing to put money down that a good majority of the UK, who were also over weight like Michelle or feel depressed because they are like Michelle in some way feel like she is some burden, and that to put their strong feminist point across they voted atleast 5 times per week.

There was a reason that Pete walked off stage. Perhaps he was the only sane person in the box.

btw some people are gonna say "haha ur so dumb you spelt AND wrong" (i said 'at' instead). That was a mistake before everyone starts bitching

hey just got 1 thing to say i believe you english tossers are rather jelous that a great scot has finally pulled through for us good on you michelle show these sad english tw*ts wot were made of!!!!!!

I THINK IT'S APPAULING HOW YOU PEOPLE CAN CALL MICHELLE ALL BECAUSE SAM, CHRIS OR MARK DIDN'T WIN! AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S DOWN TO THE BEST SINGERS AND MICHELLE WAS THE BEST THERE. YOU NEED TO GROW UP AND GET A LIFE. SO WHAT IF PEOPLE ARE FAT, OR EVEN IF THEY'RE THIN. LOOKS DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT'S ON THE INSIDE AND THAT IS WHAT COUNTS.
COULD GUARANTEE IF ONE OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS GOT DIAGNOSED WITH A SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEM RESULTING IN WEIGHT GAIN YOU WOULDN'T BE SLAGGING THEM OFF!

PS. NO I DIDN'T VOTE FOR MICHELLE AND NO I AM NOT A FAN

Kevin, do you mind? I am egnlish

Kevin, do you mind? I am english

You must feel preety proud that michelle is the best thing scotland has produced.

You must feel pretty proud that McRunThatFatBitchIsGoingToEatYou is the best thing scotland has produced.

You must feel pretty proud that McRunThatFatBitchIsGoingToEatYou is the best thing scotland has produced.

Note to Jay: fuck off.

I'm right.

I am going to stop posting on this forum as it has lost its novelty, and also, due to the large amount of errors i keep making :O

HIP HIP HORRAY GO AWAY!

LOOKS LIKE THIS FORUM WAS DEVELOPED TO "SLAG" MICHELLE WELL WE WONT LET YA M8! AND FOR ANY1 ELSE THERES MORE OF US THAN U! SO BE WARNED....MAYBE MICHELLE WILL READ THIS AND REALISE SHES GOT LOADS OF SUPPORT AND MAY I SAY NOT ONLY UP IN SCOTLAND. OH AND BYE THE WAY K3VIN (HOW OLD R U? CANT EVEN SPELL UR OWN NAME RIGHT MATE????) IM NOT FAT AND I CERTAINLY AINT UGLY. R U? HA HA HA.

Dear "CARL" --

You see that button to the left of the "A" on your keyboard, the one that says "Caps Lock"? Please learn how to use it properly. Otherwise people might think you're thick.

Oh. Too late.

Meanwhile, I never developed this "forum" (ha!) to slag off Michelle. It's my site, my opinions, and I can say whatever the hell I like whether you agree with me or not.

Either way, it's unlikely to force Michelle to sing any better, is it?

In my opinion music is not about having a pitch perfect voice or being the winner of a competition on the telly. Ok Michelle can sing. So f**king what! It doesnt mean your owed a career in music! Its about having something to say, self expression,originality and longevity in the music industry.If someone is telling you what songs to sing, how to sing them, coreographing your movements and telling you what to wear then your not achieving this. I think I speak for the majority of this countries record buying public above the age of puberty as lets face it the record sleeves of most of the pop stars today are almost interchangeable. As with most things once the money men move into something then ultimately it's not about the music anymore just the MONEY.

Her single is the intense humming of evil. Thankyou please.

I'm sure that Michelle can take the Criticism on one of her chins

Ok I said I wouldn't post anything else on this forum but I couldn't resist.

And I changed my name just for you "CARL" (k3vin is my name i use on all forums i post.)

Carl, did it ever cross your mind why you are sticking up for the "Best thing that has ever come out of Scotland" on this web page. For example, it seems you are more desperate to fight on here than I am, apparantly. I walk away and then you call me back by asking if I am fat and ugly and stuff? How pathetic are you? No I ain't fat or ugly, and for your info I'm 17, so why would you take any of my comments seriously ... just a kid.

So ... while I think it is funny joking about her weight and her double chin and her jiggling when she gets dramatic when she sings, your there watching her thinking "IT" is a piece of art. And then you waste time argueing with me.

And I hope Michelle will read this page and realise that I am an asshole towards her, so what. If she is mature enough she won't think anything of it.

How can anyone say Michelle is the best thing out of Scotland? does no one here remember the Krankies?

Apparantly she is the best thing that come out of Scotland...

...ever?

Actually thats not true. Billy Connolly is a fucking king.

Lets not forget Lorraine Kelly and the Proclaimers

Loraine kelly? wtf. She doesn't get on your nerves?

Sarcasm Kevin sarcasm

yeah ... but some people actually like Loraine Kelly and I for one is not good with sarcasm :/

Hello, see all of you arseholes, what a bunch of wankers you English fucks! Yes that's right i am Scottish! And im am very very VERY proud to be a Scot and also ver VERY proud that Michelle won Pop Idol! And good things that came out of Scotland lets see.... The TV a scot made that and the fucking train where would you all be without us Scots NO WHERE! No TV are you joking all you fat ass English would fucking die (i wish)! One other thing the only asshole Scot i know is Tony Blair that's right he was born in Scotland yes and im ashamed to say that!

Oh.. I just realised there is an English person called Jay Well Fuck you for having my name!

Im fucking ashamed at all you PRICKS who seem to be aginst overweight (fat you may say) people! That's a disgrace, total shit there weight doesnt change there personality. I couldnt care if she was 100 stone she is a really good singer and i did vote for her! I don't even like pop (infact i hate it) but for some reason her song touched me! Im a mosher (like a goth if your dumb) so i obviously like rock which is very very different from pop! Im in Glasgow and WD to Michelle and i hope she gets her well deserved Number 1! And Pete Waterman fuck you too arsehole, cock sucking PRICK! And why don't all you assholes grow the fuck up! Bye

Believe us when we say we also don't want to be so close to you scottish fucks. Make your own pop idol so we don't have to endure fat sluts like Michelle McMan.

Best thing to come out of Scotland is she ? Well I wish she would fuck off back there , that would seem to end all of the arguments

Fat sluts? Hm.... Let's see how about her that done Youve been framed and Emerdale whats her name again Lisa summit fat cow i believe am i right yes shes also english do we really have to endure her making shit jokes? And hm.. What about that other "fat" woman in the pop idol last 10 i believe she was english what if she won would you be moaning NO I DONT THINK SO!

you know i think would work? lets make a big wall around scotland so we dont have to put up with them anymore.

Actually that wouldnt work, McMan would just have to run at it and the wall would fall down. Any other suggestions?

Kevin GREAT idea bring the wall back and have the Queen crash into it with her fat arse!

I'm sure Michelles future success will match the track record of her countries in the football World cup.

do we give a shit bout thw world cup NO

do we give a shit bout the world cup NO

Anyway we are good at.. Curling hahaha... Joke!

Sorry English Jay, didnt realise you were on michelles side sorry lol

Whether Michelle is Scottish or English it doesnt matter! it doesnt matter that she's a fat mess and cant sing! why doesnt it not matter? because this time next year you wont know who the fuck she was!

Pete u r a stupid fuck who doesn't know wot he is talking abt!! Jay H now she knows what so is talking abt!!

I don't quite understand you Natz, but anyway. You say "Jay H now she knows what so is talking abt" what? Can you re-type that in English please (no offence) Thank you.

Just wanted to say I don't know why so many people think Suzanne should have won. She was terrible her voice was horrific and she couldn't sing in tune - she shouldn't have even been able to make it into the final 10 and get the royalties from the appauling Xmas cover.

"AND THE WINNER OF POP IDOL 2003 IS.................MICHELLE MCFATCOW!"HAS ANY 1 NOTICE HER NAME HAS 'MC' IN IT JUST LIKE MCDONALDS HAS 'MC' IN IT WELL I THINK SHE WAS BROUGHT UP THERE SHE MUST HAVE EATEN ALL THE 'BIG' MC MEALS OR EVEN THE 'DOUBLE' CHEESE BURGERS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You think your sooo funny well no cunts laughing! I bet you know someone fat and you like them! Well if you do then SHUT THE FUCK UP!

No Jay you shut the fuck up. It seems that you have all the time in the world to defend McShitSheDoesn'tFitInThisRoom , do you not have a life?

Everyone laughs at McMan so just get over it you scottish bastard.

Michelle Mcmanus is the female equivalent of Rick Waller and we all know how successful he is..would you want a poster of Michelle on your wall? thought not..ok she might be able to sing but she's no pop idol..Natz who are you?..I dont know what you are..thankyou please

Congratulations Michelle for getting to No.1 with 'All This Time'..you have reached the pinnacle of your career! to me it sounds more like a 'No.2' and by the looks of her she hasnt had one of those for a while.

why does it really matter what she looks like?? shes got a good voice,otherwise people wouldnt have voted for her to win.at the end of the day, the real winners are people like simon cowell and crew who get to cash in whilst they exploit the people who really want to succeed in life.everyone has dreams/goals...not everyone acheives them (hence why the english hark on about world cup 66-coz they know they wont win it again!!)

ERRRRRRRRR NO JAY H WHO THE HELL DO U FINK U ARE DO U FANCY FATTY OR SUMMAT U MAKE ME SICK IM NOT SAYIN SHE CANT SING COZ SHE CAN BUT SHE DOESNT LOOK LIKE A POP IDOL I MEAN FOR A POSTER UD HAVE TO USED WALLPAPER TO PUT HER ON UR WALL!!!

I agree with you Jamie it shouldnt matter what she looks like at all..but on 'planet pop' if you want to sell records as a 'pop star' then youve got to look good..sad but true..Of course shes being exploited by the music industry! they all are! if she doesnt get no.1's then she'll be dropped quicker than you can say 'One True Voice'

that paolo is a funny guy!! That fat bird from the telly is one big mumma, I've seen more more meat on her than any other kebab shop in the country and beleive me I've been to quite a few!! She can sing though, but I would rather not hear her than see her fat ass on the tv!!

When you're listening to the radio do you see the person? NO! so does it really matter what she looks like? NO! And lets hope a wall does get put up, coz then we won't have to look at all the ugly english people, nor listen to their "accents"!!! (Btw they r cheap n tacky, mate!)

Also, talk about fat people :
(all english)
Rik Waller, we had to watch him on pop idol AND all the "fat camp" programs
Fast Food Rockers - Gay fuckers. Get a life people who cares about pizza hut, mcdonalds or any other shite that u sing about.
Cheeky girls - r they alive? they look like they have been gased by hilter they r so thin.
Jennifer Ellison - Who cares if u can put ur leg above ur head, its not cool and u look gay doing it.
Gareth gates - St.....t...a.....t..........e offfffff....fff h......i.....mmm
Zoe Birkett - She was thin, but failed to even get into the top 20, (at least michelle will!)
Hear'say - Wherver you go, I hope you'll stay there, it's pure and simple, get away!
One True Voice - Follow your heart somewhere else, mate!
Will Young - who SAYS that he is gay, but also says that he has never had a boyfriend in a recent magazine!
etc, etc, etc

So you see my point, but I also believe this is no longer a 'michelle' forum, but a scotland v england forum, so who's best?

p.s. not e to chris - if you get to express your opinion, then so do we, OKAY?

oh and by the way, it sounds as if you've got an excess few pounds on you:

kebab shop in the country and beleive me I've been to quite a few!!

So seeing as you've been to quite a few, maybe you can explain to us what it's like being fat.

HEY EVERY1 BE AWARE! THE GUY WHO SLAGS MICHELLE OFF K3VIN OR IS IT KEVIN (HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL HIS NAME BY THE WAY....POOR BOY) IS STILL POSTING INSULTING AND CHILDISH REMARKS. I SEE HIS POSTS ARE IN SCHOOL TIME OR IS IT NURSERY? WHO KNOWS?!!!HA!!! ANYWAY PEOPLE, LOOK BACK AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT THIS FOOL IS ALL ABOUT AND HOW DAFT HE REALLY SOUNDS..........LONG LIVE MICHELLE MCMANUS I SAY HA!

I would just like to say to all the SAD English on this site, if you all have nothing better to do than slag of a young girl who is just trying to live her life long dream I really pity you all. Michelle is a lovely singer and what if she was not the best in Pop Idol she is the one the public voted for and as there is a damn site more people in England as there is up here in Scotland somre of yous must have voted for her.

Good point mamamags, and you Kevin Scottish bastard HA here pal i have a dad! Jamie the Welsh wonder fucking GREAT point about the world cup and "ERRRRRRRRR NO JAY H WHO THE HELL DO U FINK U ARE DO U FANCY FATTY OR SUMMAT U MAKE ME SICK" Who the fuck do you think you are asshole? I make you sick what about all you English fannies, yappin' on about how fat she is, as i say are you try to tell me there isn't ONE fat person in your family if so you are talking out of your fat motherfuckin ass! Yes FAT! This forum thingy isnt about Michelle its more about Scotland v England. Why don't you English fud's (Scottish word you English might not understand it) get over the fact that a "fat bitch" WON Pop Idol huh? I don't see you fucking entering Pop Idol, if you hate the people that win then go and fucking enter it yourself if you think your sauch a slim dick and such a great singer GROW THE FUCK UP! What about Gareth Gates where the fuck is he huh not seen him for a while or Will "poofy" Young (not that im against gay people just HIM)

I dont know what all the fuss is about. most of the finalists can sing better than 90% of the country (england or scotland). Fat or thin, ugly or pretty, i dont care how they sing cover songs! None of them play any instrument (except the really weird looking lad). They are by definition "popular", like the ford escort! and no-one thinks that is the best car in the world. My advice is, stop whining that "such and such should not win 'cos they are fat/scots/wailing/female." and start doing something about it!

You dont think someone should be famous? well they wouldn't be if people didnt watch a glorified butlins talent contest.

Ha Ha You are all a bunch of wasters for even worrying about it. I am sure michelle is nice enough as a person. I wont be buying her record because i am not into that kind a thing. I doubt if anyone in this forum can say that she doesnt deserve it. and why the hell is some fat ugly bloke from stoke-on-trent so popular?

The British Public will follow the crowd like a bunch of sheep. So think different! Be yourself, and if that troubles other people, tough titties!

The boss is coming, so bye for now!

So you've all got perfect lives have you? with perfect figures, perfect voices, perfect jobs, perfect Families??????? I could go on, I DOUBT IT!!!! All your negative comments reek of envy and jealousy and if you're all so bloody marvellous where were you when the auditions were running? yeah,,didn't think so, the only thing you're all any good at is slagging off people with an ounce more talent in their little finger than you have in your entire bodies. Michelle Won because people with better taste and judgment than you lot VOTED for her to WIN!!!!!!

PS Michelle has 48 pages X 10 listings per page on Google alone, do the math,. How many pages do you have devoted to you? 1, your own, that you probably set up yourself, because no one gives a toss about your lives.

see if thats the case keep all your fat slut english tarts down there instead of letting them run riot up here taking all decent men away to there brothels down south. :)

i think michelle is GREAT!!!! who cares about the weight its meant 2 be about the singing. when i woke up this morning i was singing her song but now i have forgotten how it goes and im sooooo angry. LOL!!!!!.

The boss has gone again.

maybe people felt sorry for michelle, i dont know, all i know is that brummie drip does not inspire me in the slightest! i would rather listen to stephen hawking rap about the brief history of time than listen to his middle of the road pop.

Lets get people writing good songs themselves, and then letting people all over europe vote for them......oh hang on, thats the eurovision song contest....AAAAAHHHH!

I am going back to my mundane life now. All you other ne'er do wells can pretent you are holier than thou without me!

Toodle pip.

we will soon find out if michelle deserves to win. Will and gareth are slugging it out as we speak, and it would appear will has the upper hand.

Michelle will have to succeed on her merits this time, and the public will vote with record sales instead of 25p texts.

Maybe she could diversify, and go into gangsta rap. Imagine a cover of NWA!

"F*ck the police, comin' straight from the underground, a young scots-lass got it bad cos i'm fat"

A winner in my book!

Now who would like to hear me sing "puff the magic dragon"?

Puff the magic dragon lived by the sea.......(tails off into the background noise of chit chat and banter)

I think its really childish of what you think of Michelle. The girl is a fantastic singer and she had as much right to win Pop Idol as anyone did. Put it this way, would "you" buy a persons single because of the way he or she looks? NO YOU DONT!The girl has an incredible talent and i would love to see anyone who actually created this link, to sing a better note than she does! Leave the poor woman alone and think of something else to post. All the best for 2004 Michelle! xxx

Carl is the biggest dumbass ever. "k3vin" is my alias you dumb fuck, as already explained before I use it on all the forums i post on. But still it seems that my "shallow education" is the base of your arguement. Not bad for someone who can't find the caps lock key.

Anyway. Michelle McOMGHerFatnessHasBlindedMe is a total waste of space. Shes a fat, ugly ignorant pig. I was at work today and I sat down to read the paper and she was in the sun giving away something or other. I had to quickly close the page and run to the nearest church to cleanse my eyes with holy water. It was a close one.

So what, she can sing? That doesn't Necessarily she can sing in tone, in which she can't, so why won't all the Scottish wankers let go to a broken hope. She was never a hope in the first place, infact she only won because she symbolised all the lonely single women in the UK who are fat and stupid so then all those damn loser women voted for her over and over again for the same week. I said it before, and I'll say it again: SHE WON THE SYMPAPHY VOTE.

Ill finish by saying: Fuck Carl, that fucking scottish idiot (I would of said bastard but apparantly he has a dad... wtf Carl you fucking dumbass. Go eat some haggis.)

I would just like to say to one of the above posts. Im from scotland, i dont think english are pigs and that ignorance is rife in this message board. But if we are being honest, michelle mc manus is an okish singer but she just sounds like a kareoke singer you would hear on a saturday night at the pub. Infact i think she is mince. Not just her tho. Pop idol in general makes a mockery of the music industry and is not about the music only about the money. Michelle won the competition because of the self righteous fat people with their phones on redail. I hate pop in general, or what is defined as pop in modern music but Will Young was a true talent and though it pains me to say this even Ga ga ga ga gareth gates was better than all the shit in this latest competition of mediocrity. Thx

Dan

i think she well shud of won she was da best and i think ppl we all live in gr8 britain and scots and english cant get along 2geva i find dat a bit wierd but all i kno is dat michelle mcmanus shud of wn from da start!!!!!!!

Michelle deserved to win - none of this years contenders had that quality which stuck out and with Michelle her voice was the quality - so what if she isn't the 'perfect' pop star, this little thing called the media makes people think that she can't cut it in the music industry because she is larger, if u looked at most of the music videos back in the 80's women were about 12 to a 16 at the most but as time has gone on women have had to get thinner and thinner - ur all a bunch of sheep basically and have very narrow minds!

Michelle shood o wun and she did win!!! nun o yer shite ye mad english cowz hoo the fuk dae u fink yeez r!!! n dont let me cum on this website wen ur sayin stuff aboot michelle like tht n uz r probz overw8 ye mad cowz!!!! n c tht carl guy michelle is much much betta than roxanne!!! mon the scots!!!! fuk the english peepo hoo h8 michelle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michelle shood o wun and she did win!!! nun o yer shite ye mad english cowz hoo the fuk dae u fink yeez r!!! n dont let me cum on this website wen ur sayin stuff aboot michelle like tht n uz r probz overw8 ye mad cowz!!!! n c tht carl guy michelle is much much betta than roxanne!!! mon the scots!!!! fuk the english peepo hoo h8 michelle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think all you people should just grow up and stop slagging her off.
Its no wonder all the overwieght people nowa days either keep them seleves out of other peoples way or physically make them selves ill trying to lose there weight or evem worse, try to hurt thereselves. Its becuase people like you lot about apart from the odd few slag over weight people off and make fun of them.
I for one think michelle is an ace singer she is differant and i dont mean that in physical way i mean she has a differant voice to those people out there now who have a singing career.
I am over wieght and it does get to me i do exercise and i do not eat more than i should do, But will the weight go no it wont? Its been decided that yes its a medical problem an yes hopefully fingers crossed i will be able to shake it off now. I have been taunted for ages but am strong minded an dont let it get to me "that much" but it does sometimes. Michelle is strong minded you can see that but coments like this she can do without. Just all grow up and show her respect as you would like people to show you.

K3VIN OR KEVIN (WHAAAAATEVERRRRRR)???? IM ENGLISH! AND WHY SHOULD IT BOTHER ME MICHELLE IS SCOTTISH? SO FUCKIN WHAT M8? OH SORRY SHOULDN'T SWEAR INFRONT O CHILDREN THEY GROW UP TO BE IGNORANT BIGGOTS WHO STILL HAVE THE MENTALLITY OF A 5 YEAR OLD........LONG LIVE MICHELLE MCMANUS! X

Oh right thought you were Scottish.

Your still a prick.

The caps lock key is on the far left of the keyboard, about halfway up, Carl.

Im scottish and i think english singers are good,
not that scottish people are not because i think Michelle McManus is a brilliant singer.

Im scottish and i think english singers are good,
not that scottish people are not because i think Michelle McManus is a brilliant singer.

Im scottish and i think english singers are good,
not that scottish people are not because i think Michelle McManus is a brilliant singer.

Im from Canada, so i havent seen pop idol (just watch american idol and canadian idol) , all i saw was a pic of Michelle, she's not that good lookin but she looks better after they made her over. as for world idol 2, as long as this chick can sing then she'll do kind of okay i guess. (kurt nilson wasnt hot but damn that boy can sing!) my friend from wolverhampton, england thinks michelle cant sing worth an ass, but then again he wanted the second place winner, who was also from wolves, i think, to win.

p.s. was'up with all this crappy immature arguing between the scots and the british? you all sound the same, so who the hell cares?

im from northern ireland and im overweight. i think its really sad that all u can do is slag each other off. u would all need to wise up. i think michell was excellant on the nite and deserved to win. i love scotish people and their accents. michelle makes me laugh she is brillant. most skinny girls dont have personality, they care more bout how they look.

"p.s. was'up with all this crappy immature arguing between the scots and the british? you all sound the same, so who the hell cares?"

WRONG! Scotland is in Britain! And you Jill i must be one of the few ppl on here that understand you cause you were talking slang lol!
And Julie thank you for liking us Scots and for making a point quite right skinny ppl dont have much of a personallity your right!

OI TOSSER!!! SELF ABSORBED PRICK!!! WANKER!!! K3VIN,,KEVIN, WHATEVER.... EVER CONSIDERED THAT WE USE CAPITALS TO EMPHASIZE WHAT A COMPLETE TWAT WE THINK YOU ARE?

I know the burden of pressing shift to capitalize is a great one, but come on, you can do better than that. I used to type messages in caps like yours, but then I decided that I didn't want a job mixing concrete.

Michelle can sing better than me. Although I have heard better in the pub.

And DAMN she is ugly. And grossly overweight. Or pehaps it is the grossly overweight thing which makes her ugly, it's so hard to actually make out her features. Everyone has spent so long telling each other 'its whats inside that counts' that people have forgotten its NOT OK TO BE OBESE. The health hazards are well known. Its also most unattractive, disgusting even. Stop shoving your mouth full of food, get off your fat arse and do something about it. Either that, or die from a coronary when you're 45.

Inside every fat person is a thin person (or two) scrambling to get out.

The sooner she fades from view the less emmbarrassment she will cause to society as a whole.

at last some1 else who agrees this k3vin (kevin i assume) he cant spell his own name by the way! speakes a load of complete shit. people just look back on this forum and read some of his comments and make ur own judgement.....

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I wish you lot would stop slagging michelle off, she has a gorgeous voice and is a lovely person, her performances were consistant and who cares where shes from or what her weight is? She has outsold everyone else by at least 4 times this week and that is deserving of a number one spot. I was lucky enough to meet her at the weekend and she was so friendly and overwhelmed by the amount of people there to see her and with the whole notion of being famous. Give her a break and let her music do the talking.

WHY CANT YOU PEOPLE JUST LEAVE BIG PEOPLE ALONE IM PLEASED MICHELLE WON SHE HAS A GOOD SINGIN VOICE.

I can't believe the foul comments posted about Michelle.
It's true that she is overweight but so what???
It's no wonder society is in the state it's in when people are judged purely on their appearance!!
Michelle has a fantastic voice and as gem pointed out earlier - musical taste is subjective - thank God or the music scene would be totally boring!!
On the subject of being a pop star worthy of gracing your bedroom wall, Elton John is a "pop star" and isn't (and never has been) an oil painting!!!

Well to all you said she was rubbish you have been proved wrong. I think you will find that she got to number 1 tonight in the charts and is the first scottish female singer to make it to number 1 with her debut single enabling her to be named in the Guiness Book of records.

To all you who say she can't sing, are u deaf? She has an outstanding voice and as for her weight i think its a good thing that she won to prove that she can still be a pop idol despite her weight. The majority of people complaining about her weight on here have been men. TYPICAL! Just because shes not a stick insect like Christine Aguilera.

As for all this bickering over Scotland and England. Its really stupid. Stop slagging us scots off. I think you'll find we were recently voted the friendliest people to meet in a poll. No need to slag us.

Yer i am so pleased michelle won she deserved it. Y do people go by the size of people i think it is sad. So all u people out there who slag people off about their weight think how much it can hurt them and i hope michelle dont listen to people slaggin her off bout her weight. Just think how would u like it.

lol . . .

This is funny stuff. She is gonna be put in the guinness world book of records is she, why - is she the most overweight woman in the UK or something? Shows how many "famous" things come up in Scotland anyway.

Her number one single won't last. No way. If she has got any sense she will buy lyposuction (is that how you spell it?) with her new found fortune.

You lot are the biggest bunch of hypocrits alive! Fuck off and get a life and stop slagging people BETTER OF THAN YOU! Jealous bastards!

as jay h said u should all get a life and GROW up you are all just jealous because all u english cannot take gettin beat can u oh no u cant and i suppose u all like the POOFY WILL YOUNG and by the way it wasnt british ppl who voted for her it was us scots who know talent when we see it OK.i mean come on GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!

oi u chocolate u need some serious ear tests if u think scots sound the same as english!!! no way do we sound the same have u heard a gleswegian person speakin at all?????(for all the english tht means a person from Glasgow)ok!!thank you!!

Hi kylie ma trusty pal fae Glesga' lol how ye dain?

K3vin, you wouldn't hold down a job mixing concrete, 'cos anyone with a personality disorder like yours would have his face filled in within seconds of stepping on a building site.

If you have a constructive comment then great, but i suspect you get your kicks out of insulting people via anonymous internet.

So, Take A Spoon!

FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!
Does it really matter if she is from scotland or england??????? she won pop idol 2003 well, i think thats proves my point that she CAN sing.If u dont like her, dont listen and go clean out yr pigs or woteva u do in yr spare time.
and does it matter wot she looks like, she won a SINGING contest not a MISS WORLD contest
sheesh.....

if i ever saw the fat cow i would smash her fat ugly face with a giant rock and do the world a favour. she is fat and fat people are worthless.

Hi, it's very obvious that most of the people here have too much time on their hands. Michelle-personally i think she's a great singer. Yes, she may be fat but what has that got to do with it? It's like being fat makes you a bad person or something. To all those people who've been slagging Michelle off- your only kidding yourself.

People like you don't deserve to live. How can you make people feel bad because of their weight then sleep at night? It says something about you, something very clear- your a bad person and you will pay for it sooner or later. It's sick!

Oh and to the guy that said Michelle McManus was the best thing that came out of Scotland, what about this?...

The average Englishman in the home he calls his castle, slips into his national costume, a shabby raincoat, patented by Charles Mackintosh from Glasgow, SCOTLAND. En route to his office he strides along an English lane surfaced by John Macadam of Ayr, SCOTLAND. Sometimes he drives an English car fitted with tyres invented by John Boyd Dunlop of Dreghorn, SCOTLAND. At the office he receives the mail, bearing adhesive stamps invented by John Chalmers of Dundee, SCOTLAND. During the day he uses the telephone, invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, SCOTLAND. At home in the evening, his daughter pedals her bicycle invented by blacksmith Kirkpatrick Macmillan of Dumfries, SCOTLAND. He watches the news on television, invented by John Logie Baird of Helensburgh, SCOTLAND, and hears an item about the U.S. Navy, founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, SCOTLAND. He has by now been reminded too much of SCOTLAND and in desperation he picks up the bible, only to find that the first man mentioned in the good book is a SCOT, King James VI, who authorised its translation. Nowhere can an Englishman escape the ingenuity of the SCOTS. He could take to drink, but the SCOTS make the best in the world. He could take a rifle and end it all, but the breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, SCOTLAND. If he escaped death, he could find himself on an operating table, being injected with penicillin, discovered by Alexander Fleming of Darvel, SCOTLAND, and given an anaesthetic, discovered by Sir James Young Simpson of Bathgate, SCOTLAND. On coming out of the anaesthetic he would find no comfort in learning that he was as safe as the Bank of England, founded by William Paterson of Dumfries, SCOTLAND. Perhaps his only remaining hope would be to get a transfusion of guid SCOTTISH blood, which would entitle him to ask

''WHA'S LIKE US ? GIE FEW,,AND THEY'RE AW DEID!"

Yes, it's true, the Scottish shaped the world as we know it. I myself am English but i know what the Scots have done- far more than us anyway!

When I read the type of mindless twaddle which is posted on this site - it reminds me why I was glad to leave the UK 20 years ago and come and live in Spain. Over here no-one cares what you look like - everything is taken at face value. This stupidity about the English hating the Scottish is pathetic and probably the reason why England is going down the pan. I actually wanted Sam to win but certainly did not discriminate against Michelle because of her size. I wish her the best of luck and I love her Number 1 song.

I am just glad that the Scott-Lee Fella didnt win. Seems a bit cheeky to have someone who has already had a record contract in there! Who's next? Cliff Richard?

well last time i checked this was a forum for ppl to express wat they think off michelle so ppl r just expressing there feelings but no need to slag off wat country we r all from for gods sake i come from emgland but i have scotish in my blood n i think michelle has a good voice but she doesnt look like a pop idol if there gonna make posters of someone to make money then they could at least have chosen someone who looks like a pop idol.I no i no its all about the voice!but looks count aswell so plz everyone stop slagging each other off we dnt want bombs dropping on this site n starting a war on this site so plz stop slaggin each other off plz!(im 14 n i dnt like been slagged off:(!!!)

I know admitting im wrong in what i have said in the past may give me credit, but, I am not going to.

I don't know why I started making an arguement in the first place to be honest ... Infact, I only ever posted one sly comment about Michelle and then I get a load of abuse - hence triggering to abuse more. A vicous circle I think.

Chris, time to make a new and interesting subject. This is getting so old now.

Well ben i think ur worthless slaggin big people off havent you got n e thin beta to do. I bet if michelle was a stick insect u would be all for her i really do hate people like u and think the world would be alot beta with out ur sort.

sorry jay h what i meant to say was "now jay h knows what she is talking about"

will young > michelle mcmanus

Ben, you are one sick individual, threatening violence against someone you don't even know, get a grip!!!
Andy - what a brilliant story about the Scots - I've saved it for use at a later date - hope u don't mind??!

Let us remind andy this is a web page about Michelle McManus and her success, not the babling speach on how unrecognised scotland is.

Well it certainly seems that this forum has grown since I've been away and I think I must take most of the credit for that. My insightful comments on Fatty McManus seem to have inspired intense debate on the whole issue. A thank you from Chris would be appreciated.
I must say, however, that certain people have been rather rude to my good self. I will not name names but the use of vulgar language directed towards myself has been most unfortunate.

People should remember that there is NEVER an excuse for rudeness. You should treat others in exactly the same way that you would wish to be treated yourself. If these people would like to personally apologise to me then rest assured that the apology will be accepted and no offence will be taken.

To return to the original subject it does seem that the majority of posters here have listened to my reasoned arguments and found themselves agreeing with me.

The bare facts are these.

1) Fatty is talentless.
2) Fatty is obese. Apparently 24 stones.
3) Fatty is ugly.
4) Fatty is Scottish.

When you add these four criteria together the result is truly appalling. Unfortunately her record has reached number one. This is due to mass buying by silly nationalistic Scotch people. Perhaps one day the Scotch will produce someone of talent or something worth remembering but in the meantime they hold Fatty up as some sort of role model and it's just plain embarrassing. And very sad.
I will shortly be watching the tape of World Idol. If any of my readers here would like me to post my comments on that please let me know. In the meantime be nice to yourself and each other.

Yours Sincerely,

Paolo

Andy you are a genious! All of that about Scotland is amazing and all true! Well done for admiting to being English to! There is one English man i like! :-)

Andy you are a genious! All of that about Scotland is amazing and all true! Well done for admiting to being English to! There is one English man i like! :-)

I think people have been sayin loadsa stuff about michelle can frankliy all fuck off michelle is a great singer and deserved to win more thn anyone and who gives 2 flying fucks whether she came from fucking england or scotland the fact is she is a good singer and i can bet not one of the people who said shes not a gd singer has ever tried out or been on pop idol she has took a lot of nerve to go and try for that because of her weight she probably thought she wouldnt get anywhere but she was brave enough and came out on top so just fucking get a life and look in the mirror before u slag anyone else off u fucking pieces of lowlife shit!!!! p.s paolo i hope u fucking die u piece of shit ur a fucking wanker and keep ur fucking comments to urself u bastard bitch.

I am delighted to inform you all that the aforementioned sleeping bag has been successfully reunited with its owner. The owner would like to remain anonymous but sends her gratitude. I would like for us to stop for a minute of silence to mark this monumentous occasion. It is events like this which bring us together and make us realise that war is pointless. Spread the love. Once again Michelle says thanks for the speedy recovery of her sleeping bag.

Paolo you really are a tosser.
It has already been pointed out to you that there are no such things as Scotch people, the correct term is Scots or Scottish people - Scotch is, in fact, whisky - do you think you have now grasped the concept??
I too am English and I think Michelle - and the Scots - are brilliant!!!

Well done Michelle! I voted for you because you were by far the best singer on the show and you're Scottish. Your personality shone through and was better than any of the other contestants. Ignore the smart-ass comments from people who are sad enough to even come onto a site to try and slag you. You are inspirational and proved you don't need to have the perfect figure to be a star. I love your single and wish you all the best in the future! Be strong and keep singing! Best wishes from Mark in Glasgow! ;-)

hey lauren listen here i'm from england here south london yeah i'm british yeah. don't start calling the english pigs yeah or else i will cause you down yeah and yeah let me return it back to you the scottish are fat pigs and eat too much fast food so shut up. i wish roxanne won instead of that thing.

fatty is worthless. hope she dies.

You know i have been "against" Michelle in this debate ... but I have never been sick enough to say to hope she dies.

Before any1 starts to slag ben off, just remember that the more you cuss him down the more motivation to do it again. Just imagine what he will think when its just him taking the piss out of Michelle. If he is anything like human, he will stop. He is just an abnoxious attention seeker and he is only posting so people will reply with angry messages. So don't give him anything to feed on (if your smart).

By the way, i downloaded that number one song (she isn't getting my money) and I thought it was crap. Deleted it immediatly.

fuck you k3vin. you fat fuckin shit. ill fuckin stab you.

yeah, see, he knows what im talking about.

just shut your fat fuckin mouth. she cant sing. she cant dance. she aint gud. theres plenty of ppl out there better than her that dont need a sympathy vote to win. and ppl say shes brave but obesity is a real problem, its unhealthy and shes saying its ok to be like that when it isnt ok. we shud be encoureging young ppl to eat right and exercise, not to be thin but to be healthy. michelle is givin out a bad message

sorry k3vin but i have 2 reply 2 that!!!
Ben, isnt that complete bull?michelle is giving out a good msg - u dont have 2 b 2 stone to b a star. Ever since Calista flockhart walked out with all her bones sticking out, everyone is obsessing about being thin. Just shut up alredy - she won bcoz she could sing NOT bcoz she got a sypathy vote.If that were true then the guy with the gold suit would have won ok???
and im not even gonna start on the racism, bcoz u lot r just pathetic losers.

I aint a racist. 2 of my best m8s are scottish. i like scotts. i agree with the point u dont ave to be thin to be a star but michelle is telling young ppl that obesity is accptable and it isnt. obesity causes heart disease and other illnesses. i have nothing against michelles personality and i dont judge ppl on thier looks but she shud lose weight for her own health.

i wud just like to add that it works both ways because christina aguilara has one of the best singing voices around today

Ben if u look far above you will see I agreed with what you think now, but I changed my mind about it. Sure shes fat and ugly and I don't think she is a very good singer, but just ignore it dude, why is it your problem anyway. And before you say "shes sending out a bad message", just think who the fuck is gonna back you up? Paolo? Great ... 2 vs everone else.

Ben, I dont think michelle is "telling" people that obesity is fine. Just like i assume that you are not "telling" people that you are a foul mouth narrow minded bigot. Threats over the internet are still classed in the same league as threats to your face, and a threat to kill is still a criminal offence. I presume that if we ever met face to face, you would infact be a weedy little sad low life and would cower if anyone raised a fist to you. But what a big man you are on the internet. Strikes me you are a bit of a loser! I am guessing you are a skoolkid with an iq of about 80 and too much time on your hands.

Care to retort? or will it just be a volley of abuse as seems to be your only communication.

I can make just as personal as you M8

Well done Michelle! I understand just how hurtful these bad comments about you can be. Some people take to suicide through things like this. The difference for you is that you have to cope with it on a national scale.

I admire your courage and strength and ask that you ignore such narrow minded comments. Most of them come from little pathetic low lives that have nothing better to do with their time than make people they don't even know feel terrible.

You have risen to fame and whether or not it lasts wont change the fact that you got there. You are a unique individual, so far above the idiots on here. Know that you are better than them and that you always will be. You may be overweight but you certainly aren't ugly. It's a shame that the clowns on here take out their insecurities on people like you.

If your reading this, i ask you to ignore their comments and embrace the good ones. You will always have support, all over the uk. The select few saying bad things about you on this can make it seem like you don't but you do!

You are number 1! and the British people put you there! Not just the Scottish. It would be impossible for the Scots to get you to number 1, being the minority.

Michelle, you're great and i ask that you don't become disillusioned by these comments. Stick in there and you'll go far. Remember, your better than them and always will be!... A dedicated fan, Cambridge, England

hey at least 1 person agrees with me thanks latisha!if u have msn could i add u?

this is for "not ben". im 25. an ave been a kickboxer for 17 years. if we do eva meet ill kill you. an do i sound like i give a flying fuck about it being a criminal offence?

Ben, act your god damn age! You call yourself an adult HA! My arse! And thats a threat to "not ben" and i know you don't care but you should and whoeve runs this page should shut it down and stop all this shit! It's one big racist site! Oh ben we are all shiting ourselves coz ur a kickboxer BOO FUCKING HOO how are you gonna find us huh? You in the fucking CID?

Ben

Ha Ha you are so gullible, how easy is it to wind you up. "i'm a kickboxer me, My dad is mike tyson, he's got rotties! Ugh"

Have your kuckles got scabs on from where they drag on the ground?

You cant win a conversation on the internet with a threat, it just dont work!

Bye Ben and i look forward to when we meet, cos i will see the bodies flying as you wade through the crowd!

PS, if there are any CID reading, i am sure he has "previous" based on how insanely nuts he appears to be.

well. michelle is worthless and thats allthere is to it.

mcmanus is possibly one of the worst nasal attempted singer i have heard. She cannot sing in tune, has no voice control or vibrato. She is dreadful. Compare her with kelly Clarkson usa winner, it's embaressing. KC is one of the best singers i have ever heard and if you download her idol performances they are unbelievable!!! mcmanus is not a looker but if she could actually sing i'd have some respect for the girl!

mcmanus is possibly one of the worst nasal attempted singer i have heard. She cannot sing in tune, has no voice control or vibrato. She is dreadful. Compare her with kelly Clarkson usa winner, it's embarassing. KC is one of the best singers i have ever heard and if you download her idol performances they are unbelievable!!! mcmanus is not a looker but if she could actually sing i'd have some respect for the girl!

I think all the "good" singers have already been discovered by the millions of other reality television programs, and all thats left is the mediocre and bizarre performers who get famous for being unusual.

what about showing "Chancellor of the Exchequer" idol, where we vote for people who can run the countries economy better, (and making us all better off). I wouldnt care if he looked like a walrus, as long as i can afford to drive my car again.

BO'

I must say that I am really appalled by the bad language and rudeness of certain people here. Also the attempted bullying of Ben by certain posters is most distasteful and completely unacceptable.

All I did was voice the perfectly reasonable opinion that Fatty is ugly, obese, cannot sing and only won due to mass voting by jingoistic Scotch people. There is an old saying that "The Truth is the Truth" and it's such a shame that people who cannot accept this resort to unpleasant and petty personal abuse.

Some dimwit above accused me of being a racist. Please let me make it perfectly clear that I have nothing against the Scotch nation. Admittedly Scotland is a bit of a backwater and generally speaking it's citizens are less civilised than we here in England but I don't hold that against them. Neanderthal man was perfectly content with his lot and I'm sure that in their own way the Scotch are also perfectly happy.

So lets put an end to this childish Scotch/English bickering and lets stop all the atrocious language, poor grammar and bad behaviour.

Peace folks.

BEN Y DONT U JUST SHUT UR MOUTH ITS UP TO MICHELLE WHATS SHES LIKE AND HOW DO U NO SHE HASNT GOT A MEDICAL REASON FOR BEIN BIG. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE U TRY GOIN ON TO POP IDOL SHE HAD THE GUTS TO GO ON AND SHE WON COZ SHE HAS A GUD VOICE. PEOPLE SHOULDNT GO BY PEOP;ES WEIGHT THEY SHOULD GO BY PERSONALITY AND IT SEEMS TO BE U AINT GOT N E

i was told to have a look at this site as the posts that have been put up are quite funny but looking down the page i have realised summit you lot really do need to get a life. Who really cares that michelle is fat, can or can not sing, if she's scotish or from mars, the fact that you are all taking time out to abuse one another and her coz she making alittle cash out of what talents she does have is sad! chill pills all round and feel the love .... X

Paolo

Who has been bullying ben? From what i can see, people have been reacting to his foul mouthed threats of violence.

And to say that people cant accept that "the truth is the truth" seems that you are very certain that only you are right. Its an opinion, but not "the truth"

I can only imagine that your comments regarding the scottish are tongue in cheek, but it does raise a few flames.

I too am not a big fan of bad grammar, spelling, CAPITALS or all this TXT SHRTHND. But people communicate in different ways.

Who would you have preferred to win? I think Sam was more exciting than most of them myself, but i dont think he will suffer as a result of not winning, it may even do him a favour (liberty X).

As the bishop said to the choir boy "while you're down there!"

ben does come across as abit of a twat though ....... now is that the truth ?

the truth is the truth ........apparently !

michelle shud be executed for giving this message to young ppl. bieng obese is disgraceful and i am ashamed to be the same species as this bloated ugly, out of condition animal. she cannot sing, has no talent and hyas the personality of a turd. she shud be burned.

ben i love you and your opinion to me means everything, you told me you liked big boned men ......im confused .....we love michelle and all she stands for .....plus she will make a fortune from such sponsors as macdonalds, burger king and any other fast food company that wants to take advantage of this delightful lady .....

i hate fat people. theyre just to lazy to get off theyre arse and exercise.

I hate Michelle. I hate her. She is a loser, a talentless fatty who won through sympathy votes and I wish she would fall over and fucking die. It's a shame really, she thinks shes "made it" because she really is that maive but she doens;t realise thaht in a years time everyone will be just bored of her talentless fat ugly face and rubbish voice.

i agree. people like michelle should be shot at birth.

what are you guys on ..... she won live with it, sad sad losers. blah blah she's fat blah blah i hate her..... she must have doen summit right as she has caused a stir with you lot !

as about being shot at birth that is a tad harsh ...

I would suggest that JO and BEN go to some anger management sessions, you pair have issues !!!

NO IT IS PEOPLE LIKE U BEN THAT SHOULD BE SHOT U ****

I don't know how half of you can say shit abt michelle! i agree with hong kong fooey jo and ben need anger mangagement classes and saying she should be shot at birth is just something a sad piece of shit would say!! Get a grip OK! She won and there is nothing you can do abt that just deal with it and get a life!!

Paulo you prick we are NOT Scotch you see Scotch is a motherfuking drink we are Scottish or Scots ARSEHOLE! What are you anyway fuckinf spanch (dick)

Fucking* I mean not fuckinf

Oh My God!!!!!
PAOLO - can you not read or are you really that stupid? - How many people have to tell you that natives of Scotland are known as Scottish or Scots - what the hell is wrong with you???

Scotch people kick ass!

they dont at football !!

ALL I CAN SAY IS : CAN U SING?

AND IF MICHELLE WAS ENGLISH, I BET YOU ENGLISH WOULD THINK SHE WAS GOOD. ANYWAY, SHE WAS VOTED, SHE WON, GET OVER IT.

IF SHE'S FAT, SHE'S FAT, WHY SHUD SHE CHANGE FOR U?

IF SHE CANNY SING (IN YOUR OPINION) THEN WHY DID SHE WIN.

(IF U WIN ON A SYMPATHY VOTE, YOU WOULDN'T GET PEOPLE PHONING IN LOADS OF TIMES, YOU WOULD ONLY GET PEEPS PHONING IN A COUPLE OF TIMES! DUH!)

SO GO F*CK THE LOT OF YOU MICHELLE - HATERS COZ SHE'S HERE TO STAY AND SHE'S NO. 1!

"This time yesterday, I thought I was gonna die. Standing at the edge of my ordinary life..." (trails off)

PEOPLE! PLEASE TAKE NOTE! I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE SAME GUY IS SLAGGING MICHELLE OFF ON HERE SINGLE HANDEDLY....HE JUST CHANGES HIS NAME TO CONFUSE. HE COULD BE K3VIN ONE MINUITE BEN THE NEXT, BUT WHEN HE KNOWS UR ONTO HIM AND U'VE KNOCKED HIM DOWN HE'LL CHANGE HIS NAME AGAIN!! ANY-ONE AGREE WITH ME? MICHELLE LOOKED A MILLION DOLLERS ON TOP OF THE POPS! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

One last thing kevin before you comment on the caps lock again FOR EVERY1 OF U (HA HA) THERE'S LOADS OF US BACKIN MICHELLE!!!! HERES TO A 2ND WEEK AT NO1 EH?

Actually ben is someone else. I am not a hater anymore, i just watch this page as it progresses to be one of my favourite web pages.

Must admit I'm checking this page every night - great entertainment!!
Michelle looked great on TOTP - a real star!!!

ODE TO ROXANNE

Thou countenance is as bliss on a summer's day
And voice as sweet as honeyed dew

Such smile as akin to angels in the firmament
And heavenly sounds which pour forth from luscious lips

Oh how my heart beats ever faster
And my senses giddy from such aural nectar

For nowhere on this earthly realm
Is there one as beautiful as thee

ODE TO FATTY

From a strange land where primitive peoples abide
And haggis roam the wild hills by night

Comes wailing and moaning most foul and noxious
Floating South like smell of turds in the pure English air

Noise which doth emanate from most repellent of visage
Unholy din from monstrous belching blubber

And most curious and odd and no explaining
The queer Scotch folks who kneel in mindless worship

Oh grow up all of you. Michelle McManus is extremly talented, I should know, I'm a vocal coach. She's successful, and some sad people just can't cope with it. get a life.

Oh grow up all of you. Michelle McManus is extremly talented, I should know, I'm a vocal coach. She's successful, and some sad people just can't cope with it. get a life.

I hope she dies in an accidental caneoing accident, where she splits her head open on a rock so all the fish can feed on her brains. Atleast that way she can be of some use - Fish food.

McManus fans are just as fat and ugly as she is. Shes a big fat ugly fish-smelling skank and she deserves to die PRONTO. DIE MCMANUS DIE.

BEN U R SO SAD ON ABOUT PEOPLE WEIGHT ALL THE TIME AINT U GOT N E THIN BETA TO THINK ABOUT IN UR SAD LIL LIFE. WHO CARES IF SHES BIG OR NOT ITS THE SINGING VOICE THAT COUNTS MAYBE U SHOPULD TRY SINGIN IN FRONT OF CROWDS AND SEE HOW FAR U GET AND I BET THAT WOULDNT BE FAR. I ALSO BET U R DEAD UGLY

BEN U R SO SAD ON ABOUT PEOPLE WEIGHT ALL THE TIME AINT U GOT N E THIN BETA TO THINK ABOUT IN UR SAD LIL LIFE. WHO CARES IF SHES BIG OR NOT ITS THE SINGING VOICE THAT COUNTS MAYBE U SHOPULD TRY SINGIN IN FRONT OF CROWDS AND SEE HOW FAR U GET AND I BET THAT WOULDNT BE FAR. I ALSO BET U R DEAD UGLY

BEN U R SO SAD ON ABOUT PEOPLE WEIGHT ALL THE TIME AINT U GOT N E THIN BETA TO THINK ABOUT IN UR SAD LIL LIFE. WHO CARES IF SHES BIG OR NOT ITS THE SINGING VOICE THAT COUNTS MAYBE U SHOPULD TRY SINGIN IN FRONT OF CROWDS AND SEE HOW FAR U GET AND I BET THAT WOULDNT BE FAR. I ALSO BET U R DEAD UGLY

SO PEOPLE....WE ARE NOW UP AGAINST BEN! THIS GUY IS OBVIOUSLY IMMATURE (SEE HIS PAST COMMENTS) HE ISNT THAT WELL EDUCATED (SHIT ENGLISH AND DIALOGUE THAT MEANS MATE) HIS COMMENTS ARE ALSO VERY BORING AND GIVE ME THE OPINION HE HAS ALOT OF PROBLEMS HIMSELF. I WOULD SAY TO EVERY1 LETS ARGUE ALONG WITH HIM AND RAISE OUR POINTS (PRO MICHELLE PEOPLE) BUT HE'LL PROBABLY DWINDLE OFF BACK INTO HIS SAD LIFE IF U SIMPLY IGNORE WHATEVER HE POSTS...SO LETS ALL BOICOT BEN OFF THIS SITE! FUCK OFF BEN! U ASS! U SAD MOTHER FUCKER! (UNDERSTAND THAT?....THOUGHT SO!....HA).

PAOLO.................what kind of name is that?
How dare you talk about anything British or...."Scotch", as you put it.
Spik Italian or what............spaghetti munching twat!

Yes folks....it's true.........PAOLO is a PRICK, can u believe after all his insults...he is a small FAT little ugly guy who has never had a girlfriend and is unlikely to.
This info is from one of his so called "friends" whom he has confided in!........so don't call him PAOLO, he is FATTY PAOLO..........!!!!!the pizza spaghetti munching hypocrite!

Hi there. I think Michelle deserved to win as she was the best that Pop Idol had. I don't think you should judge people by the way they look. Pop Idol is about finding people who can sing, and not to judge them on the way they look. I have her album and it is great. All those people who are being mean to her should think again and realise how nasty they are being to her! You people disgust me! I am from England and you just have to face it that Scots are brilliant at singing and I am proud of Michelle. Well Done.

I hope she dies in a freak yachting accident.

I think all you people who are dissin Michelle are well out of order because you're all makin pre-judgements of her and you only slag her off because she is big and wat the fuck do u know about bein big?? Nothin cos ur all sad idiots wiv nothin else to do if you sit on the net slaggin people off. Didn't ya mothers teach u anything. If Michelle's so big why don't you slag off other big people like Lisa Riley or Dawn French????????

Good gracious Hamish, have you been pouring whisky on your porridge or something? Your laughable insults against a fine, fine country can only be the result of an alcohol induced haze. May I remind you that Italy have won the World Cup THREE, yes count them, THREE times! And Scotland have won it...let's see...errr...oh dear.... not even one measly time. How embarrassing. So you see, Italy is a demonstrably superior country to Scotland. Topic closed.

On the subject of Fatty, it seems that (ludicrously) she still has her supporters on this forum. Listen up all you Scotch folks, you are just making total fools of yourselves. And it's no good some of you pretending you're from England. That ploy is as transparent as Fatty's talent.

It's quite interesting really because it seemed that the days of novelty acts in the charts were long gone but now we have both Fatty and the Cheeky Girls. Actually if you analyse these things it does transpire that the Cheeky Girls are slightly more talented. Let me explain :

1) Fatty is ugly. So are the Cheeky Girls.

2) Fatty is from a third world country. So are the Cheeky Girls.

3) Fatty cannot sing. Nor can the Cheeky Girls.

BUT!! And here's the kicker,

4) Fatty is obese. The Cheeky Girls at least have the saving grace of being thin.

I wonder who will last the longest? I think probably the Cheekies as they've had four hits and surely Fatty will have disappeared by March.

Still. she'll probably have earned enough cash to pay for a years supply of takeaways.

You are a complete Asshole and loser you deserve your forum to be scrapped.How dare you knock someone for there size or looks.Haven't you heard the phrase "looks are only skin deep"...bet your one ugly Mother f****r!!

You are a complete Asshole and loser you deserve your forum to be scrapped.How dare you knock someone for there size or looks.Haven't you heard the phrase "looks are only skin deep"...bet your one ugly Mother f****r!!

You are a complete Asshole and loser you deserve your forum to be scrapped.How dare you knock someone for there size or looks.Haven't you heard the phrase "looks are only skin deep"...bet your one ugly Mother f****r!!

You are a complete Asshole and loser you deserve your forum to be scrapped.How dare you knock someone for there size or looks.Haven't you heard the phrase "looks are only skin deep"...bet your one ugly Mother f****r!!

Michelle (I've just eaten a baby!) Mcmanus is I'm quite sure capable of taking the criticism on at least 1 of her chins. If I was Scottish I know just how proud I would feel at the moment.

Personally I think Michelle has the voice and looks of an angel..it's just a shame that it's a f***ing hells angel. Thankyou please

the cheeky girls cant sing and they are way to skinny michells a gud singer and who give a S*** if shes big not me it is about time ppl take ppl for who they are not what they look like

Look, all y'all r jst arguin on! i jst wanna say that michelle certainly CAN sing and that she did deserve to win, plus pop idol this year wasnt exactly "talent oozing" but as for u jocks, stop slaggin off the english! were bigger than you and our votes helped her win too! we aint jealous when you beat us!! hav u seen how much we hav gained and won campared to you? please! im not biased i just like stating the truth and the truth is michelle deserved to win, the english helped, and we are soooo not jealous!! l8az!! x

are your parents mad about you singing! i think your the most brilliant singer ever. love kristen ps congratulations

are your parents mad about you singing! i think your the most brilliant singer ever. love kristen ps congratulations

are your parents mad about you singing! i think your the most brilliant singer ever. love kristen ps congratulations

You know wot paolo since when did Scotland becaome a third world country because last time i checked it wasn't or did i just not get that memo? I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO!!!!!! Get a grip she can sing so get over it!! and for the millionth time we are 'Scottish' or 'Scots' get it into your ugly thick mind!!!

i think michelle is brilliant and anyone that says she isnt can fuck off coz they dont know the hell what they are talking about. if u wanna know what shit music is, listen to ur self or the cheeky girls. or u can go to church and do gospel. if michelle couldnt sing, why the hell did she win pop idol. answer that!!!!!!!!!! i am michelles no1 fan and i love her to pieces and i cant stand people calling her fat because she isnt. she makes a point that u dont have to be really skinny or anorexic like other pop stars to look good. michelle looks good all the time, i love her music, and most of all, i love her!!!!!!!
PETE WARTERMAN, U CAN FUCK OFF TOO COZ AT LEAST MICHELLE HAD THE GUTS TO SING ON POP IDOL. I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOU SING, OR MAYBE NOT U MIGHT CRACK THE FUCKING WINDOWS. U PROBABLY CANT SING AT ALL. AND FOR U CALLING MICHELLE FAT, HAVE U LOOKED IN THE MIRROR L8LY?OH NO I FORGOT, UR FAT SMASHED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW CAN U CALL MICHELLE FAT WHEN UR BIGGER THAN HER EH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Michelle is once..twice..3 times a lady.

Hello,

I have just sat and read through your comments and now i'd like everyone who has posted on this to sit back and actually think about how michelle would feel about this...
OK, she's overweight, but hello, so's the majority of the population, she's working hard to do something about that and she has addressed this problem. If she can't sign then why the hell did so many people vote for her? I realise she is not in fact a "pop idol" but at the end of the day she recived millions of votes from ppl not just in Scotland! For all those ppl dissing scotland then look at mark, he lives up north, u saying that everyone that lives up north must of voted for mark? I'm sure thats not true! Also the person ranting and raving about roxanne, if roxanne was so great then why didnt she win? I'll tell u why, because not enough people voted for her!! The reason why michelle won was because she recieved the most votes, its not her fault that she won, its ours!! Don't slag her off for winning, if people felt so strongly about it then they should of picked up the fone and voted for someone else!!

PS - Im British but that doesnt make me a stuck up arse hole!

Hello,

I have just sat and read through your comments and now i'd like everyone who has posted on this to sit back and actually think about how michelle would feel about this...
OK, she's overweight, but hello, so's the majority of the population, she's working hard to do something about that and she has addressed this problem. If she can't sign then why the hell did so many people vote for her? I realise she is not in fact a "pop idol" but at the end of the day she recived millions of votes from ppl not just in Scotland! For all those ppl dissing scotland then look at mark, he lives up north, u saying that everyone that lives up north must of voted for mark? I'm sure thats not true! Also the person ranting and raving about roxanne, if roxanne was so great then why didnt she win? I'll tell u why, because not enough people voted for her!! The reason why michelle won was because she recieved the most votes, its not her fault that she won, its ours!! Don't slag her off for winning, if people felt so strongly about it then they should of picked up the fone and voted for someone else!!

PS - Im British but that doesnt make me a stuck up arse hole!

Another advantage of michelle being overwheight is so wen we c her on her videos or on the tv, we dont c her bum or boobs hanging out because she wont wear that type of clothes (unlike other disgusting popstars).i cant stand seeing a popstar with their bits hanging out, its revulting. Also wen u buy a cd and listen to it, u dnt c the singer, so wat is the problem?STUPID!!! Y dnt u all get ova urselves and give michelle a chance. Dnt critisize until u can do beta than her (which will probably be never). Wen pop idol got down to about 4 ppl left, i voted for her about 9 or 10 times a night. So u scottish ppl saying ppl english who voted 4 her must be fat and ugly, well im 15years old, 9stone, and i am not ugly!!!

This is the funniest thing I have read in ages, Paolonis a genius.

Fucking pop idol, wankers.

Elaine, Noone is disputing the fact that English people helped Michele win noone except a few on here are slagging the English. But when us Scots read the drivel some of you have put on here we cant help but get defensive. This site turned into a slag Scottish people site when it was intended to be a give your view on Michelle site. have you read some of the names she has been called if not i suggest you scroll down slowly from the top and read all the comments.

I'm scottish and from Glasgow and think Michelle McManus is rubbish cant hold a note to save herself, how she came from nearly being booted off to winning is beyond me. Im really glad that Sam and Mark have been signed..heard there debut single tonight and what a difference these lads will go far unlike michelle who'll probably have one or two hits and then vanish.

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Isabelle thats a really fucking horrible thing to say..anyway I've noticed Michelle has held on to her no'1 this week..I reckon by the size of her she must hold on to her no'2's as well.

Hello everybody my names Sophie and I'm 12 and I live in Belfast Northern Ireland. I really love Michelle and think her single is wicked.All you people being nasty towards her I think are really horrible. I really hope that due to her size she doesnt have a stroke before touring over here in the Emerald Isle in March.

to put a long story short...michelle was absolute bollox.unfortunately, the people with actual talent such as chris and the suz got voted off.there is no justice.

by the way respect 2 paolo.genius

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well done michelle u've done scotland proud n i hink ur amazing so kepp it up ur brilliant

well done michelle u've done scotland proud n i hink ur amazing so keep it up ur brilliant

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sophie you are so inspiring. will you make love to me?

I love Sophie, artistc and intelligent, excellent.

i think that every one who calls michelle fat is gay and they deserve to be killed p.s will someone get off wiv me

Yes Bobby, how fun it would be to live in a country full of the blind, ignorant and insanely distended. I for one will certainly get off with you. DOWN WITH DARWIN!!

where can i meet up wiv you darlin' then alex luv you babes x x x x x

how old are you alex luv from bobby p.s my real name is leanne

listen to all you guys and girls out there, i am a little over weight myself and i feel really upset if someone does call me fat and i sure michelle wouldn't be to happy if she saw what you people are saying about her. Now i am sure that you people think i am talking a load of rubbish but you can stuff yourselves with the crap your sending in. Come on guys, who's with me!!!

Leave us Gay people out of this, we are are far more tolerant of others than Breeders are.

LONG LIVE SAM NIXON

Fichelle FatFannyius

If Michelle(fat mess)Mcmanus reads this can she do me the honour of not performing her hit 'All this time' on the telly at meal times because I'm having trouble keeping my food down. Thankyou please.

You Sad person Sophie,,,, You as a woman should be behind Michelles efforts to make her life long dream come true,,, But no what do you do you beret her. She is a human being with feeling maybe you should think about that before you slag her off.

i think michelle is the best singer around i dont c where she is a laughing stock stupid bas**rds michelle deserved all wat she got i luv her now go f**k off

Michelle McManus is to record a single with stammerimg pop idol loser Gareth, They will call themselves COW & GATES

Who thinks it will last, come on show of hands. Who wants to see her in a centre page spread in RAZZLE? Is she gonna be a star? Well shes already the size of a planet.

LIP UP FATTY

2004 Is the Chinese year of the cow so hopefully Michelle Mcmanus will achieve greater success when she releases her 1st album of karaoke covers and cheesy rewrites of old ballards. Just because I'm a girl doesnt mean I should support Michelle because not me or anyone likes a fat bitch.

Learn to spell Vicki.

We should re-establish a wall between England and Scotland to stop fat scottish twats appearing on our televisions.

Michelle is a cutie pie. I wanna make out with her. She is so fucking cute I could scream.

i ave red all these comments and i dont like dat kind of music but i fink michelle as got a brilliant voice, but thats not wot im hear 2 tlk about. im hear 2 say dat if u scottish fucks think ur better than english then u got another thing cummin. i fink dat ne man who wears a skirt every day must b poofs(all scottish shits reli). at least english blokes wear skirts they do it 4 fun and not ALL THE TIME. and all da scottish wankers i have seen r all ugly and reli need 2 get face lifts. u may av a few mountains in scotland but if i want 2 c mountains ill go 2 sumwhere where it is hot and not raining all da fucking time.
BRITAIN RULZ ANS SCOTTISH R JUST GAY FUCKERS
bye.xxx

Erm, Scotland is part of Britain, so your last comment means shit all you twat.
Being English myself makes me disappointed that i'll get tarnished by the same brush as gibbons like yourself. Your inability to string a complete sentence together adds to your gayness.

Proud 2 B English, are you trying to be young mean and black. You do realise that a computer is not a mobile phone so you don't have to text talk, or have you just been expelled from every school and don't know how to spell?

I iz finkin that u iz payin no respec 2 our bruvaz in de Norf Mr proud to be English..is it because u is black or iz u just avin a small penis aaaaye?

do you ever worry about what you've unleashed chris? ;-)

Its about time prats like you learned to keep comments like this to yourself. Michelle is one great singer, size does not matter its whats inside that counts, I would far sooner buy Michelles record than Victoria Beckham who cant, never has and never will be able to sing, and I would sooner have a Scottish friend that an evil English prat like you.

Alan you fool.
Just because Michelle can sing better than Victoria means absolutely nothing. Now comparing her with a proper established female singer like Madonna would give you a far greater idea as to Michelle's true talent, which, funnily enough, is zero, nada, zip, zilch.
Oh and of course you'd rather have a Scottish mate, in fact you'd like anyone to be your mate when you have none.

I would like to apologise for my recent absence from this forum. I've just had time
to peruse last Sunday's chart and I see that Fatty is no longer at number one.
In other words it is all over. Yes, Fatty is over.

I think that now is probably the time to reflect on this strange lunacy that has gripped
the Scotch nation in recent weeks. It is indeed known that the Scotch are a queer lot
at the best of times but the jingoistic worship of such a talentless obese and ugly personage
would seem to be quite inexplicable.

I think we should look deeper into the Scotch psyche for the answer.
Bordering a demonstrably superior country in England has clearly (and quite understandably)
produced a massive inferiority complex among the Scotch people. Lets face it, the Scotch
have always been vanquished in battle, slaughtered at football, their women are uglier,
their men less masculine (what is it with their cross-dressing ?), and Scotch society
has a generally much lower level of sophistication than we here in England.

Now this inferiority complex has of course bred a great deal of jealousy towards us
English folks. Up until recently this jealousy had no way to physically manifest itself.
But then, along came Pop Idol. And along came a useless Scotch monstrosity called Fatty
McManus. To a simple Scotch way of thinking What better way to "put one over on the English"
than to mass vote for this talentless oaf.

And so gibbering Scotchies sniggered and snickered and jigged up and down whilst playing
with their sporrans as Fatty Mcmanus won Pop Idol (and was launched on a pop career which
lasted five minutes of course).

Well there you have it. I hope my words will have provided some insight to those who were
previously baffled by the bizarre chain of events which occurred.

I'm currenly working on another poem to the lovely Roxanne with which I hope to return to the
forum again soon. I'd like to thank everyone for their support. In the meantime many thanks
and take care.

Paolo

Michelle bless her does try and make the best out of her appearance with 'fuzzy photography' and wearing midle aged womens trouser suits..but as the expression goes 'you cant polish a turd' thank you please.

Secret love child of Bernard Manning and Vanessa Feltz.

Michelle, fat gal
you and the Rick Waller go together well
My Michelle

Michelle, fat gal
vous et le Rick Waller allez ensemble bien
allez ensemble bien

I need to, I need to, I need to
I need to make you see
That Roxanne was the girl for me
She was was as fit as fuck but just out of luck
I love her

I want her, I want her, I want her
I think you know by now
your an ugly fat cow
Until I do I'm telling you so you'll understand

And I will say the only words I know that you'll understand
My Michelle

Pete, that was really very good. Very good indeed!
I think it would be an excellent idea for more people here to write poems and post them to this forum. Thanking everyone in anticipation.

I just got back from the Isle of Skye
I'm very very big cos I ate all the pie
the boys they hide as I go by
Michelle where's ya troosers.

Let the winds blow high
Let the winds blow low
every boy in the street I blow
Michelle where's ya troosers

A squadie and his mates took me to a ball
and d'you know what? I shagged 'em all
since then he didnt call
cos I didn't have on me troosers

I sing Karaoke to the punters delight
I won pop idol that fateful night
I doont care if you think I'm shite
I love ma tartan troosers

Let the winds blow high
Let the winds blow low
every boy in the street I blow
Michelle where's ya troosers

Well I met a sailor who'd come to shore
the tatooed guy hadnt been here before
So I hiked up his kilt and I gave him a blow
He'd come before I could say 'hello'
Now you can't do that with troosers.

ROXANNE (THE BEAUTIFUL ONE)

A Poem by Paolo

Your timeless gaze and feline grace
Your gentle smile and sculpted face
Beatific form that rides the hour
A testament to nature's power

In dazzling hues or pastel shades
In spacious plains or forest glades
Your inner essence doth impart
The resonance of purest Art

For in this world of rant and rage
Your spirit reaches from the page
And locks my soul in warm embrace
A pure empathic interface

And 'tis my joy and majesty
To know the wonderment of thee
For only thou can truly sing
In ways to ease my suffering

Everyone who is defending Michelle purely on her weight can I ask you a question? If there are two people stood talking to you and one is thin, the other fat, who do you spend most of the time looking at, and do you even know you are doing it? Pschology shows us that there are two opinions of obesity one is urgh and the other is ahhhhh, and whilst this may not be fair it is true, and dont forget also that mp's jumped on the ahhh bandwagon and threatened simon cowell to be nice to her?! why?! Her problems are self inflicted and she also tells lies. 15 stone on her butt cheeks maybe, next year she should enter nasal idol and not world idol 2. If she doesnt want stick she should be honest - whether she is 40 stone or 10 stone she should be truthful. That would earn her true respect.

It's amazing that people feel the need to rip apart what they desire to have so much. Those of you who attack this talented woman salivate over her success. And, speaking as an American (who DOES know Geography despite prior comments) I am horrified by how you Scots and Brits are clawing at eachother. It's quite pathetic..and by the way, NO ONE IN THE WORLD cares which one of you is better. So give it a rest. It's a boring argument.

I for one am certainly not 'salivating' over Michelles success..fact is no one over the age of 13 has any respect for her because she won her position on a fucking game show!..its a joke!..she now has the chance to sing to impressionable young people and possibly change their outlook on life for the better and what does she sing about? 'oohh baby baby' and 'girl power' also well done for being the 1st American to recognise there is a world outside of the USA.

I am 12 years old and are disappointed that Michelle won. She played on being Scottish, and being a woman and being fat to win votes. It was a popularity contest rather than a singing contest. She wasnt the best singer. She did'nt beat the others fairly. It was all a con. She will be forgotten really quickly and good job too. People are fed up with her already. We all want Chris and Sam. They were fit and sang beautifully..especially Chris who I luv! I dont care that Michelle was fat. He voice comes out of her nose and is very annoying. I want someone I can listen to as well as put up on a poster on my bedroom wall.

Sorry to disappoint you, yet again, disappointed but i'm afraid you don't know your arse from your elbow let alone geography. Scotland is in Britain ergo Scots=British. Welsh, N.Irish and English are also British. You meant to say English against Scottish. Fool.
One other thing to all those who were complaining about the use of Scotch to refer to inhabitants of the heart disease capital of the world, it is a perfectly acceptable, slightly derrogotary term.

hey al...i don't think this site is large enough for your ridiculous ego! hee hee people like you make me laugh :) thanks!

i am plopping ova michelle. she turns me on. bye bye

i am plopping ova michelle. she turns me on. bye bye

alig g-i happen 2 b FEMALE so get ur facts rite b4 u say ne fing.turnip-and ill tlk in txt all i want coz no little fucks r gonna tell me wot 2 do. so y dont u try and MAKE ME use 'proper language'. heres 1 4 u. U R A STUPID LITTLE FUCK AND I WISH U WLD FUCK OFF AND DIE. oh and i aint black either. chump-i dont give a flyiong fuck wot u say.(woz that a complete sentance 4 u )stupid shit, and i aint gay- and if u ave got a problem wit gays then mayb u shld BACK OFF coz i dont take kindly 2 ppl who ave a problem wit gay ppl.
alan-i did not say nuffin bout michelle i sed stuff bout scottish fucks in general, incase u didnt read my comments i sed dat she had an amazing voice and i dont care whos music u listen 2. infact i couldnt give a toss boout who u like or dont.
bye

i think evey1 should just shut the hell up about michelle! so wat, she won pop idol and the others didn't. big deal. the people who didn't win pop idol will still bring out records. they always do. for example will young won pop idol but ive heard more from gareth gates than from him. at the end of the day, if u dont like michelle, dont listen 2 her music. its not hard. i cant f***ing stand the cheeky girls but im not always on the internet moaning about them am i? she won pop idol, GET OVA IT. SHEZ THE WINNER!!!!!!!!!11 X X X X X

Proud 2 B English - i aint got 2 do nuffin cause im a stupied gerl hu cant strang a sentince 2gthur.
You're clearly a single mum with 10 children sucking the blood out of this society. I can just see you sat at your government paid for pc smoking a fag whilst the ash of the fag drops over your babies head as it tries to suckle on your limp deflated balloon of a breast.
Do us all a favour 'luv', get booted out of this country you parasite.

Hmm, proud 2 b english....
you don't have problems with gay people yet you say this, and i quote "BRITAIN RULZ ANS SCOTTISH R JUST GAY FUCKERS".
Do you just delight in making yourself look incredibly stupid?

Michelle is crap and scotland realy sucks shit. Fucken scots come on hear and make trubble by slagging off the english. Face it losers your country is a pathetic dunghole and scottish fuckers need to get lives. Fucken butt ugly stupid scottish wankers just face it yorl never be as good as england so just get lost and dont let the door hit you on your fat scottish arses on the way out.

I have been away from this site for a few weeks, but the IQ levels havent risen since i was gone! infact they have dropped to about 23.

wow!

Well Michelle may have won, but it definetly doesn't mean she was the best. I really like Mark and Sam's new song'with a little help from my friends' and it's 10 times better than any of Michelle's singing. She is so unbelievably rubbish that, funnily enough she hasn't brought out any more songs. People all over the wold are forgetting about her,there are so many other singers better than her. She's long gone!

So 'Not Ben' - what are you basing your findings on... solid fact.... unlikely.
Perhaps you should continue to sweep up baboon muck and stop nipping into your bosses office to use his PC.

Oi proud to be English! Noooooooooooooo! I fink dat it iz about time dat you stopped watching da Trisha show and da QVC got off your illiterate dumb fuck arse and got a job at da Mcdonalds juz like me Julie. Aiiiii!

I love rainbows, Mickey Mouse, the beach, the mountains and waterfalls. I consider myself to be sensitive, caring and kind-hearted. I'm currently serving a life sentance on the charge of murder.

i love your music i have bin on all the web sites that have come up u go girl i am 100% behind u from kerri

I'm sure Michelle would scoff after reading these postings.

what, scoff pies?

(sorry, I really couldn't resist)

Chris Dude your famous! Just found this post on the forum at the official Michelle Mcmanus website:-
i was on google looking for stuff about michelle, and i clicked on one of the headings and it was some sort of online diary about popidol made by a guy who i dont think is british, well this is what one of his entries said!

Michelle McManus - Laughing-Stock Idol 2003

Congatulations to Michelle McManus - you might not be able to sing but cloth-eared Brits voted for you anyway. Good luck for the future. You'll need it.

i think he's the one with cloth ears!

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Chris C***** is just like 'Bono' out of U2, but with discoloured, irregularly shaped toes. He has lived on the Internet since 1992, and is generally glad he doesn't have to evolve his website into an even more surreal reflection of his psyche.

This one above is the comment on his website that I find worth reading.

(A load of girly waffle has been removed at this point)

I wouldnt stand for this Dude!!!!!!!!

Just wanted to say that there are some Un-kind Sick people. Michelle can sing, She's nice looking and everything! No body should bring a person down I think it's wrong. Being Big Boned dosn't make anyone Sound or Look Stupid, I think Michelle has dont very well and I voted twice for her. Her Personality was 100% same as everything else I so her do, The rest of the singer's thought of getting it especially Sam he only got where he was for the Look's not singing. Good Luck Michelle I will be Supporting you all the way... Your the Best :o) Love Matt xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Who ate all of the pies?
Who is of enormous size?

Who consumed all of the fries?
Who is a sight for sore eyes?

Who drank all of the beers?
Who got the votes of Scotch queers?

Who is an assault on the ears?
Who screeched and drove one to tears?

Who is soon for the bargain bin?
Who has more than one chin?

Who clogs up all of the loo's?
With her humongous number two's

Who dresses like an old frump?
Who has a mountain sized rump?

Who should be sent to Moldova?
Who had a career that's now over?

Thank you. Thank you. takes a bow

On a related matter, it's very sad to note that some people are apparently slagging Chris off on the official Fatty website. These people should realise that Chris has kindly provided this forum free of charge for the enjoyment of netizens everywhere. It's a shame that these people can't display proper respect and manners.

Matt, she's not nice looking. This much is true. No way of getting round it, she is clinically obese.
I dunno... maybe thats just my super high standards but I dont think its abnormal size bones but the amount of lard packed generously around them which accounts for this fact.

I see you are all still at it, Slagging someone for being fat is so SADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. You all should have more respect for a fellow human being. Wether they are English or Scottish should'nt matter and nor should their weight. So give her a break, if you don't like Michelles singing don't listen and don't buy. And for the one above whose name eludes me she has brought out more song an album to be precise.

Whose the girl with collosal hips?
Who'll be performing on cruise ships?

Whose the girl up first for seconds?
Whose album does the bargain bin beckons?

Whose the girl who sings through her nose?
Whose the girl wearing a tent as clothes?

Whose the girl who thinks she's the bizz?
But in reality just smells of whizz?

Who needs help to get out of her chair?
Whose nasally voice can't we bare?

Who looks like she should live in a sty?
Whose eaten all the banofi pie?

I would like to thank Paolo for his continued inspiration as without his insight the above would not have been possible.

Not visited for a couple of weeks - glad to see the comments still coming!!
Al - post on 9th Feb - I don't know where you got your info - Scotch isn't, and never has been, a term used for inhabitants of Scotland - unless you're pig ignorant that is!!!
Looking forward to seeing Michelle's album at number 1!!

Thank you all for you support over the last month or so.
I would just like to say that it is with much regret that i have polluted the airwaves with my atrocious singing and my obese body.
I shall endeavour to stay indoors so no-one will be offended by my ghastly sight.

Carol - post on 22nd Feb - keep 'em comin baby: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=scotch

Leave the lass alone, I bought the album and reckon it is not as bad as half of the people slagging this poor lass off reckon it is...I am not saying it is perfect, but for a first album "Way to go Michelle" I happened to notice her debut album is sitting at number (3) in the album charts behind sensational voices like Katie Melua and Norah Jones. People slagged Celine Dion off but she was one of the worlds best singers and selling artists, let us not all be so nasty to people who have got off their backsides and made theirs dreams come true!!! Can't wait for the next album Michelle!! -

You'll be waiting a long time for album number 2.

Just because she can get to number 1 in the singles chart and number 3 in the album charts doesn't make her a good artist.
It just means that once again the brainless monkeys of the world have been sucked into promotional propaganda whilst watching pop idol.
Most likely they are readers of the Sunday Sport who believe Elvis still lives on the moon and lets face it they are all Tony Blair supporters.

This is tooo much-
from amazon albums chart:
No.55 Paul McKenna - Easy Weight Loss
No.78 McManus - Meaning of Love

I have a sneaking suspicion as to which is the more informative seeing as all fatso could say about love would be to regale us with tales of drunken nightclub fondles and blokes throwing up on her head while she services them
:D

Michelle Mcmanus she a make me do a sex wee. Thankyou please.

Thanks Al. Because I'm such a nice person I didn't like to embarrass these people by pointing out to them that my usage of the word Scotch was entirely correct. Thanks for that.

I also visited the official Fatty website yesterday with the intention of telling them to mind their manners. However, I didn't bother in the end because it seems that hardly anybody ever posts there. Her forums are rather like the Marie Celeste. The few messages that have been posted are of all the "Hi Michelle I think you're really good" or "Go Michelle you've done Scotland proud...blather blather och aye the noo blah blah blah......." variety.

Why are her fans so boring?

Paolo, I am a Michelle fan and I am not boring. We "Scotch" as the MORON above calls us have a great sense of humor that is why we are ignoring all the daft comments from all you sad people. why don't you all just "GET A LIFE"

Madge you are a fatso fan and Madge you are dull. You haven't even the sense to have worked out that scotch is a legit word, or are your fingers too fat to copy and paste? McManus fans haven't come up with a single amusing response whilst there have been numerous poems and jokes against her. Come up with a 'why are all people who hate Michelle...' joke, I dare you.
Eagerly anticipating the punchline

oh by the way GERTIE .u dumb fucker. i am only young so sumhow i dnt think i ave 10 kids and huge boobs. and at least wen i rite in txt form, ppl actualy understand me n i can spell. UNLIKE U, U DUMB FUCKER!!!!! plus i dnt smoke.and as 4 alig g - get a life and sort ur name out. just coz ur bitch works in macdonalds, it dnt mean i av 2get greasy hair and a greasy face. and stop trying 2be ali g coz it dnt suit ya. BYE BYE X X X X X X

Did you know that based on 100%....33% of votes came from the English. Paolo.. your some kid the wicker man would love you. They burn people like you in it. Scotland is a proud nation with more heritage and history than England wil ever have. They went out into the world and took their talents with them. England went out and started slavery thinking they ruled all. The Scots, Welsh and Irish out number you and are a celtic nation together. And at a last census 128 million people claimed Scottish ancestery thoughout the world. God if they all came home, England would have to move. Good luck Michelle You deserved it. A happy Irishman. Your all Brits in the face of it and when it comes down to your Queen and country, you are all one. Even a simple Southern Irishman will come and help if the need be there. Remember like all other nationalities when your are on that operating table what the hell who you are you getting saved. Think Paolo. And I have not bitten.

Dannieboy.... Scotland doesnt have more heritage. What fact book did you get that from. And if you're so concerned about the fact that we are all Brits then why do you need to point out that the Scots, Irish and Welsh out number the English when put together, what exactly does that prove? Clearly the cold weather has frozen your brain.

U DUMB FUCKER; U DUMB FUCKER; U DUMB FUCKER.

Yes 'Proud 2 B English', you are indeed.

Al3x, I do not need to come up with a joke there is plenty of them on here YOU BIENG THE BIGGEST ONE.

AL and PAOLO - posts on 24th Feb re use of the word Scotch - extract from dictionary.com - it will come as no surprise to most of us that the word SCOTCH was dreamt up by those who are not Scottish - read it and weep!!!

[Middle English scottisc. See Scots.]
Usage Note: Scottish is the full, original form of the adjective. Scots is an old Scottish variant. Scotch is an English contraction of Scottish that came into use in Scotland as well for a time (as in Burns's “O thou, my Muse! guid auld Scotch drink!”) but subsequently fell into disfavor there. In the interest of civility, forms involving Scotch are best avoided in reference to people; designations formed with Scots are most common (Scot, Scotsman, or Scotswoman), but those involving the full form Scottish are sometimes found in more formal contexts. Scotch-Irish is the most commonly used term for the descendants of Scots who migrated to North America, but lately Scots-Irish has begun to gain currency among those who know that Scotch is considered offensive in Scotland. There is, however, no sure rule for referring to things, since the history of variation in the use of these words has left many expressions in which the choice is fixed, such as Scotch broth, Scotch whisky, Scottish rite, and Scots Guards

Dear Dannieboy. I note you say that human sacrifices are still carried out in Scotland. Fortunately I reside in England and pagan practices died out here many many years ago. You see, England is a first world country, at the cutting edge of the twenty first century. Whilst I am well aware that witchcraft and paganism still hold sway in the land of the Scotch, I have no intention of ever visiting there. Cheers.

Carol - let us not forget that the language you speak is English with a Scottish accent.

Carol, I read it, I wept- tears of laughter mingled with those of desperation. I must thank you firstly for your extra curricula research in which you proved me right. 'forms involving Scotch are best avoided in reference to people', why I wonder, is this the case? Maybe because it is as I said before a derrogotary term? Possibly? You think?
I can only assume the pleasure you took in letting me know I'm right is down to you being an unutterable tard.
At least you've shown by supporting fatso that you can use the redial on your phone, I predict a future for you in a call centre after an initial course in the use of the engish language.

Just an Irishman playing the Scots against the English. The wickerman is a thing of the past England still have their witches there is enough of them in government. although with happeness there is enough Scots within National Government to keep them at bay. England gave them Thatcherism and Scotland suffered for it. Now with a pretty large Scots presence in the government. Have the tables turned ? Michelle what have you started.

You should all read this to see how tubby didnt deserve to win.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30500-13005443,00.html

Does anyone know why an artist with such talent like Michelle Mcdoughnut would have an album drop out of the charts quicker than a skydiving Rick Waller? I idea is that English people (such as myself) have been bulk buying initial copies of the album and burying them in their gardens hence the initial album sales. Can anyone else shed any light on this? Thankyou please

i love that movie and it was one of my favorites. I like the part when he acts stupid then goes and breaks their own telephone. Hansel is still hot now. i like that artist but i rather Chris McHue. He sounds way better.

I SAID COME ON FAOHOBWOAGAUS COME ON FAOHOBWOAGUS TAKE YOUR BODY TO THE LIMIT EVERYBODY TO THE LIMIT COME ON FAOHOBWOAGUS..... COME ON FAOHOBWOAGUS COME ON FAOHOBWOAGUS EVERYBODY TO THE LIMIT TAKE YOUR BODY TO THE LIMIT COME ON FAOHOBWOAGUS....YEA C.O.M.E O.N. F.A.O.H.O.B.W.O.A.G.U.S. YEA YEA YEA YEA

What the fuck are you guys on about?

Sophie, I think you will have a truly beautiful garden come summertime because Fatty's album will make excellent manure.

A very very large ugly tree in deed has grown on the spot where I buried this rancid filth . The tree bears very strange foul smelling tartan fruit and has left all other plants in my garden dead due to it's greediness for nutrients in the soil. I've been told not to worry though as the tree has a very short life span and will have gone by summer.

Does anyone know where I can buy an extra extra super widescreen TV so I can watch Fatty's new video ?

Fred baby - that would be a valid point if I were Scottish, I am actually English!!

Al - you really are a twat!! If you had read the entry properly - assuming you can read...(you certainly can't spell - I think you'll find the words you're looking for are curricular and derogatory)... you would realise that I was pointing out that Scotch is an inappropriate term for people - oh dear Al - I don't think that call centre will be requiring your services any time soon!!

Chaplin, Just read the article as you suggested. You don't really believe Simon Cowell fixed the results of Pop Idol do you?. How the hell could he do that? Michelle won fair and square. If she was a skinny thing like Kylie there would'nt be all this fuss. I would love to see all you that have been slagging her off, are you all thin and prim with faces like GODS AND GODDESSES I bet not.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30500-13005443,00.html here is the link. read it evry one and say honestly if you think it could happen

Paolo, might I suggest you invest in a stack of 80 wide screen tv's connected together to form 1 large screen and sit well back..afterwards you can use them to watch Free Willy or possibly even Rick Waller the singles collection 8/2002 to 9/2002. Thankyou please.

Madge - read the article - it does seem a bit far fetched!!
Don't reckon even Simon Cowell could have fixed anyone to win - what do you reckon?

there were no english until germans started
shagging pigs.

the white english are the most hated race in the world

Carol, I think it is highly unlikely that simon Cowell fixed the result of the show. People all over the UK voted, I know he is rich but I don't think even he has enough monet and resorces to find and pay all the millions who voted.

2 Words Les..inferiority complex.

Hello Les, we only started shagging the pigs, because the other options (Scotch and Welsh) were too disgusting. PS Now we are shagging your National Football Team. Danke.

Well said Fritz....I married a Scotch woman (drunken Scotch Tramp)for a short while, luckily I saw the error of my ways. Now I just shag members of my beef herd (I do have one favourite though).

NEWSFLASH

RUGBY UNION RESULT JUST IN !

ITALY 20 SCOTLAND 14

REPEAT

ITALY 20 SCOTLAND 14

Oh dear. Oh dear. Professional rugby team loses to country who only play it part time. Oh dearie dearie me.

Madge, honestly! All Cowell would have had to do was bribe the staff at the telephone centre where the votes were collated.

Paolo, get a grip!!!

To which message are you referring, my good woman?

Paolo, You really think that everyone would go along with him GROW UP. I have just came from the Michelle site there are loads of English people joined so it is'nt only "US SCOTCH" who are fans. Go back to school Texas fagott and learn we are called SCOTTISH PEOPLE OR SCOTS.

Actually Madge Scottish people are most often refered to as 'Free Loaders.'

We are the most generous people you could meet every tourist from all over the world will tell you that. Scottish people are kind and warm hearted unlike the English and Welsh. So slag away I will just ignore an ignoramous like you. LOL

Madge - Why are you laughing out loud when you are by yourself typing into a computer?
And have you met every tourist from all over the world - can you confirm that you are the most generous?
Perhaps you should pick up a book called "Reality and how to get there" and put down your book called "Biggest Bullshitters."

Just trying to lighten things with the LOL but see you don't have a sense of humor, Go get a life.

Paolo, there are so many things for you to get a grip about it's hard to choose!!
I was referring to your comment about Simon Cowell bribing telephone centre staff - come on now - you've lost the plot!!!

Welsh, why on earth would the Scots be known as Freeloaders - first I've heard of it!!
I'm with Madge on the popularity of the Scots all over the world - you only have to look at the reception their football fans get in comparison with the English fans, for example - incidentally - I'm English!

And Madge, the constant referring to Scots people as Scotch is getting on my tits too!!!

you talk so highly of england and what its done for us over the generations,and i must admit i tend to agree,i had the best ride i ever had there....didnt think much of the the big dipper though......oh and texan faggot if you like shaggin wild animals then there is plenty at blackpool mind you most are mingin o fish

i agree with baldiman,,,,i think english birds try to hard to be different....like last week i went down on a bird and she tasted like ..chicken

i know i might be talkin oot mee arse,but i think fat burds are swell,
my last turd was fatter than mcm"anus"

Yeh.. Baldiman I agree with you about the minging women in Blackpool, trouble is I found most of them to Scotch as well. But mine stunk of meths............They must have run out of beer money. Still they could try singing for a living. Hopefully they managed to scrounge enough for the bus fare back up to Scotchland.

Carol - how can the term Scotch be getting on your tits when you have 2 backs.

Carol - You are English are you. I beg too differ, what you are, in fact, is pathetic, sucking the state dry, living off this country whilst constantly slagging it off.
What the fuck has football fans got to do with the whole country.
Thats the equivalent of saying "I saw someone dealing in drugs so the English must all be drug dealers".
Funny how a lot of Scots come south to live yet not many English move north when its so shit here.
You make me sick. Why dont you go and live in Scotland with the rest of your buddies, and while your at it, go shove your fist up McManus's crusty cunt.

I think SHE'S FAB! I dont really care what anybody else says I think SHE'S GREAT! I'm so obssesed I want her phone number!

well you've made it to the 400 barrier chris ... but I do feel the quality of the comments has dropped off of late. Maybe you could find something else in popular culture for everyone to get foamy around the mouth about? ;-)

Turd, I do believe you missed the point.
Madge commented about the friendliness of the Scots, I merely used their football fans as one example to support that opinion!!
I already live in Scotland and I'm managing to support myself and not living off any state thank you very much!!

Madge, I'm hurt!!

Carol, please carefully read the wording of my comments again, I haven't actually accused Cowell of anything. It is Cowell himself who claims that he fixed the show. Thank you.

Carol, I do like you. You are the only Fatty supporter who has an actual personality and who has not resorted to expletives and vulgarities. Furthermore your criticism of Al's atrocious spelling was quite commendable. I realise of course that the reality is you are no fan of Fatty's. It has become quite obvious that your comments are entirely motivated by sympathy for both her and the entire Scotch nation.

But look what happens. You side with Madge and all you get for your trouble is a moronic obscenity directed at you. You must learn to accept that the Scotch are a primitive people totally devoid of any etiquette or sophistication.

You deride the word Scotch. Yet they call US sassenachs. Far worse.

Best Wishes,

Paolo

Carol, Please believe me I did not put the above post.

madge and carol get a fucking room you are clearly both cleaning ladies and well done for being able to use a computer.
'arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win you are still a retard'
madge + carol = gold medal winners

Sharon, Mock all you want, I don't know about Carol but I am not a cleaning lady, noone asked for your input so stay out of what does'nt concern you. END OF DISCUSSION.

Awwww Paolo, I didn't know you cared!!
Thing is, I really like Michelle!

Madge, glad we're pals again!!

And Sharon,I'm no cleaning lady either (no offence to cleaning ladies intended).
I think you'll find we're not arguing, only having a bit of a laugh, unlike yourself who is just being offensive!

Carol, Glad we sorted that out, I intend to ignore any more remarks from Sharon and anyone else who derides the Scottish. They are just not worth bothering about. Hope to read more posts from you Carol.

You are so right Madge - these sad people are best ignored.
Mind you, despite my best intentions to ignore, when I see a stupid comment I can't help answering it!!!

I do the exact same thing, When I saw some of the comments on here about Michelle I was really annoyed but when I saw the comments about Scottish people my blood boiled and I had to reply. Now I am just gonna ignore them all they are not worth bothering about.

Quite right Madge, these losers are just not worth it.

Quite obviously Carol and Madge are the same person just patting herself on the back constantly.

It's great to see so many posts from Scotch people here supporting the fat mess from Inverness..I'm also pleased to see Scotch people taking time away from drinking whisky,pub brawling,wife beating and injecting heroin into their eyeballs to post uplifting messages on this forum for Michelle..I'm sure she appreciates it no end. Thankyou please.

"The fat mess
from Inverness"

Sophie, that's really rather good. I think you should try your hand at a poem.

Sophie that really isn't so good at all!!
I'm guessing the mess from Inverness you refer to is Michelle - she's from Glasgow.

Carol, I know it is hard but just,,,,,,IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE.

Yes Carol, but Glasgow doesn't rhyme with mess. The fat mess from Glasgow doesn't have the same ring to it. If you wrote poetry you would have a clearer understanding of these things.

Paolo I have written poetry on this forum before under the guise 'Pete Waterman' but yes I think it is about time I wrote some more as we cant rely on the Michelle fans to write anything of any interest to anybody.

Madge - I can't help myself!!!!

I'm sorry I didn't appreciate the poetic licence but the poem was very bad - Paolo, stop encouraging Sophie!!!

Wow, Sophie you are so modest. I can't believe it took you so long to claim the credit. I'm very impressed.

Carol, sorry but Sophie's poems are very good. I don't think you can criticise unless you can do better yourself. So, how about it...? We wait with bated breath.

Fat mess from Glasgow
What are you doing right now?
Probably eating

plz to post more haikus!

Paolo, I love a challenge - I'm working on it!!!

she who eats to much
might choke on bone while singing
well it serves her right

I'm working on it guys...a short poem will appear on this forum tomorrow night and I believe it will piss all over Carols..Paolo to judge. Thankyou please.

FLOWER OF SCOTLAND

O flower of Scotland,
When will we see your like again?
You fought and won the battle,
To win pop idol way back then,
You crooned before the jury of Pete Waterman and co,
They know shit about music,
Cos they signed you after the show

Your dismal career is on the wane now,
Your success is all but gone,
So what you gonna do now Michelle?
Cos you surely cant sing for long,
A career at Butlins could be good but do they need the hassle?
Besides I hear the one in Glasgow
already has a bouncy castle.

Maybe Mcdonalds could employ you?
Your career would then begin,
Your arse is the same size as the staff who work there,
So I'm sure that you'd fit in

Thankyou please.

THE BEST SINGER EVER

Oh Michelle was my favourite
She is my best saviour
My very best favourite

She comes from Glasgow
Where it recently snowed
But her voice made the snow (go away)

Simon Cowell and Dr Cox
Said that Michelle rocks
And that she is tops

She comes from Scotland
Which is a better country than England
and better than Wales and Ireland

Michelle is very lovely
Her personality is bubbly
Lovely jubbly

She is simply the greatest
Have you heard the latest
There's some people who hate her

Bad lies they tell us
I guess they are jealous
So totally completely jealous

Michelle ignore them you are super
Super Douper
You sing like a super trouper (Abba song)

The truth is that you won because you are the best
And that you passed every single test
Pete Waterman needs his ears tested he's a mess.

----------------------------

If you think Michelle is good Carol then it comes as no surprise that you thought that poem was good as well.

Just back from a weekend away Sophie and whilst I would like to take credit for the poem cos it's rather good - it wasn't me!!

I would like to take credit for the poem cos it's rather good said Carol.

Carol, I would like to apologise for playing that prank on you. I don't know what came over me. :)

It seems to have misfired anyway becuase you thought the poem was good. I have to tell you that I made that poem as awful as I possibly could and I thought you'd be mortified whem you saw your name at the bottom.

Were you on the famous Michelle Mcmanus coach tour of Glasgow this weekend then Carol? apparently it visits all the places relative to Michelle i.e Mcdonalds,Burger King,KFC and the local Karaoke bars before getting on the A1 to head for that London.

Were you away in the Isle of Skye? come on Carol were waiting for your poetry.

okay, okay, I'm working on it - and Paolo babe, don't know what you do for a living at the moment, but a career as a poet may be beckoning!!!

Ok having not visited this forum for several months, I am surprised to find that certain people are still expressing their opinions as universally accepted facts. To learn nothing in nearly 3 months is an uneviable position. To be so closed off to potential possibilities to listen and learn from others, suggests both arrogance and an element of fear - being open-minded might mean admitting they could be wrong. I would like to remind those that opinions are just that - based not on rationale or reasoned logic, but driven by personal emotion, and internalised thought patterns. As such while I have been known to listen to and enjoy Michelle's music, I will not insist that everyone should, but rather ask that those who do not, express their views in an adult and reasoned manner.
I would also point out that there are people who will try to tear down others who enjoy even a modicum of succes. Whether or not a person's success is deserved or will be long-lasting,it is my belief that they should be wished well and that they enjoy their success for however long it lasts. After all, I feel content in my own life and confident in my own abilities - I see no need to be derogatory about others.
My comments of January 3 still hold true, and they perhaps bear repeating for many of the authors of posts on this site. And so I say again:
Well thanks for making your argument without the racist whinings of those such as Paolo. I appreciate that your opinion is that Michelle's vocal stylings are not to your liking and that your opinion is not based on ridiculous objections based on her appearance or nationality.

But it is only an opinion, as is mine, and each individual who has posted here. I think we have to remember one essential point - singing and music is entirely a subjective thing. What some people really like can be nothing short of awful to some others. That's why we need variety in our industry - to provide something for everyone. While I detest the likes of Busted and Blazin Squad and S Club and Atomic Kitten, they are obviously fitting some niche and catering to a demand that is out there.And so I accept their existence, and just choose not to buy their music. I suggest that those who don't like Michelle do the same, rather than whinge about it.

I do like Michelle and I like her style of singing. I find it engaging and emotionally moving. I agree she can probaby do with more work in terms of increasing her range and how to present a song, but she never claimed to be professional, and these are things that are learned as artists mature and progress. I hope she manages to do this, as well as choosing to have the right songs and surrounding herself with the right people in order to maintain a successful career. And I wish her all the best in that.

Gem, I agree totaly with you. The people on this site who have slagged her off have done so more about her weight and her nationality and lastly about her singing, if they don't like her music then just don't buy it.

A response to Gem:

Whilst trying to make yourself look grown up and clever with your long winded response, it is clear to almost everyone here that your response took those three months you were away to compose.

Only children feel the need to, i quote, "express their views in an adult and reasoned manner." This is because adults themselves don't care for this view, only children who are trying to act grown up.

I'm new to this forum but I'd like answers to the following questions if possible:-
1)Is it true Michelle is to release a cover version of Oasis's Wonderwall called Wonderwale?
2)How comes Michelle doesnt sweat much for a fat bird?
3)When is Michelle's baby due?

Thanks in advance

You get me angry English. Perhaps my comment might go done a bomb. Boom. Scotland is out of it London is favorite

I would have thought that you liked England, bearing in mind that our esteemed Prime Minister (a Scot, by the way) allows your supporters to operate freely here eg Abu Hamza.

Can you bomb fatties house? address to follow. Ta

Paolo - where u been??
I don't think the PM is a Scot.

I'm afraid he is, Carol. Born in Edinburgh. And what a pity he didn't stay there. I'd rather listen to Michelle's entire album than have to endure one of his vacuous speeches. And if Al Qaeda do strike here then let us not forget just who it is that has irresponsibly lost control of our borders. Yep. The Right Honourable Tony 'Please all asylum seekers come here, we won't run any checks on you, we'll let you all in, we have no idea whether you might be terrorists or not' Blair.

Erm that doesnt rhyme Carol

Lol Sophie!!!
I am hanging my head in shame - I have not yet come up with any poetic works!!

Paolo - I'm scared to say this - I actually agree with you, at least in part, about Tony's loss of grip on things - I must be going soft!!!

Carol, Sophie. I think we may be the only three left here. It appears that everyone else has abandoned ship (even Madge, who let's face it was a bit of a misery guts anyway).

So it is just us three. Sophie, Carol and Paolo. The three musketeers. United in our fight against oppression and bad music everywhere.

One For All And All For One !!!

There you go again Paolo Pre judging people. I am not a "misery guts" as you so nicely put it I just don't like it when people slag off others for no reason. I like a laugh as much as the next person but there has'nt been much to laugh about on this board. (Hiya Carol)

I have a reason to slag off Fishelle, she made me vomit over my sisters head when she appeared on the screen.
Other shows have warning for flashing lights, etc, she should have a warning as well to prevent further vomit induced mishaps.

Dont be so miserable Madge :-) you only have a couple of weeks left to write your poem Carol before Michelles career ends and nobody will know what your on about..Paolo I agree with you about Blair..you cant have nuclear weapons AND a decent standard of living..its either 1 or the other.

Hi Madge - good to have you back!!!
Sophie, my work is mental at the minute but I promise I'm working on my masterpiece!!
I like this forum, it's a good laugh.
Banana - you are so rude!!!

Hi, Carol it is good to be back, can't wait to read your poem.

Good one banana! everytime I see Scotlands no.1 light entertainer on tv I'm forced to put my right foot through the screen. I have sent BMG the bill but as yet heard nothing.

I've just seen Michelle on Saturday morning kids tv and quite frankly I'm appalled..if she is such a good singer then why does she mime to awful awful ballads? if she's lost weight then it certainly doesnt show. I now have to go and buy another telly.

Where is everyone ? this board is getting very boring, come on guys where are you all? Carol still looking forward to reading your poem. Sophie and Paolo I am even missing you both :)

She didnt deserve to win she has alredy slagged off some off the best singerslike lulu.

Do us i favor michelle get lost you fat c*w b***h

get lost michelle you are not wanted no one like you NO ONE IS GOING TO BUT YOUR SONGS go back to were you came from FREAK

I only have one sentence to say to the above poster LEARN TO F***ING SPELL.

Madge there is a difference between a spelling mistake and a typo you grumpy spastic

Spelling Mistake/Typo. Whats the difference you still got it wrong. Sticks and stones.

get lost michelle you are not wanted no one /like/ you NO ONE IS GOING TO /BUT/ YOUR SONGS go back to /were/ you came from FREAK This was posted by "I too Hate MichelLe" anyone see the delibirate mistakes.

Oh you are forceful Madge :-)

Michelle I hate you,
Whose gonna FUCKING date you?
You sing like a freak,
Your a fat fucking geek,
So do us all a favour,
and FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!

I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOUI HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Madge you can shut up i have learning difficultes right

I would like to thank the person who kinda of stuck up for me thank you

I'm blind but I always know when Michelle is on the telly because my blind dog bites me.

If you dont post that poem soon Carol then I will be forced yes forced to write it for you..and we both know what that means.

Dende, If what u say in your last post is true I am sorry for my reply, But if the are false like I suspect shame on you.

Lol Sophie!!!
Fear of another poem from you has scared me into action - coming soon - I promise!!!!
Busy eating Easter eggs!!!

There was a wee woman from Leeds who swallowed a packet of seeds,Green grass grow out her A**E and she could'nt get S******G for weeds. How is that for a poem :)

Hmmmm. It appears that Madge has loosened up, in my absence.

Right, here it is - several glasses of Chenin later!!!
Roughly to the tune of the gorgeous Will Young's "Leave Right Now"!!

Ode To Michelle

She's here, so live with it,
Though I must confess she's overweight a bit.
But what a voice, it's truly great,
Even if it makes our Sophe get in a state!!
And Paolo you're so mean.....to our brilliant disco queen
But I think you're really keen!!
Michelle's going to prove you wrong...........she's here and she's staying.
Michelle's going to prove you wrong..........you can all stop complaining.
Michelle you're a superstar............and best of all you're Scottish!!
Michelle you're a SUPERSTAR!!!!!

APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!

Madge yes im afriad it is truei have lerning problems i accept to appligiuse

hello paolo .Carol and sophie and madge how are you i have fread some off your poems from the previuos and i thought they wre good

Very funny Paolo..are you going to own up to writing that poem for Carol as well?

:) :) :) :) :) :) ------ Like my wee faces,,, Carol if that was your poem it was great,,, if it was paolo it STINKS,,,,, ::):):):). ony kiddin Paolo.

Michelle has a face reminiscent of the contorted faces of the damned as they gather round the fires of hell.

I want to share a peom with you all (Madge.paolo.sophie)as soon as i think off one

dende you are thick thats why you have learning difficulties you daft ideot i bet everyone argess with me like sophie, madge,carol and paolo they all probely think you are thick as well

Hi Madge - all my own work - must have been the wine!!!
C'mon sophe - what do you reckon?

That was fucking crap Carol. You should be flogged.

Brock, You keep your opinions to yourself. Do not presume to know what I or the others may or may not think about anyone on this board. Dente Just ignore His/Her comments,,,, Sorry Paolo getting all serious again :) Hi Carol Poem was not to bad :)

Madge thanks for sticking up for me he shold ceep hs opinnions to him slef

i accedently put my middle name in in the above post sorry every one

I agree with Brock why is Dende even on the website if he carnt even spell and haveing learning problems you are such a child. DO US AND EVERYONE ELSE GET LOSE YOU DUMB IDIOT.

Dave, Dende is on this site because it is a free country. Why are you after all going by your last post you are not to hot at spelling

Well Carol, I've read your poem and I don't know what to say. :)))) I don't want to disappoint anyone so I'll take the cowardly way out and call it a draw. The winning prize is a signed copy of Rik Waller's album, on it's way to you both as I speak.

Dave. When you say carnt, do you mean, can't ?
When you say haveing, do you mean, having ?

Also I am somewhat perplexed by the line
"DO US AND EVERYONE ELSE GET LOSE YOU DUMB IDIOT."

It appears to be an example of very bad grammar. Do they teach English at your school ? Perhaps you could try again. If you need any help please let me know. Cheers.

Toenauk, well thanks for that ever so analytical response to my last post. Must say I didn't intend to appear long-winded, clever or superior, was just expressing an opinion in the way most natural to me. I apologise for the fact that I have a vocabulary that includes words of more than two syllables.
Oh and fyi I spend the time between visits having a life. And teaching.Hopefully teaching young people it's ok to have an opinion that's not popular , how to express it with respect and dignity, (as opposed to insults and closed attitudes) and to be open minded.This site is one of the ones I point them to when we discuss stereotypes and values. Hence why I visit every now and then.
I believe Chris set up this forum for people to post comments on; which is what I did. Please don't assume knowledge of, or make personal comments about, authors. Stick to the debate, not the debaters.
And even tho I don't agree with the opinions posted by others, I do find them entertaining - helps relieve the tedium of life. So thanks for that all.

Madge.paolo.i have two things to say Leave Brock and Dave alone i totaly agree with them why should we have idoiot brains Dende in here it is clear he is thick as two shorts planks (Dende im on about you)if there is anyone else who wants to call Dende with haveing learning Problems feel free to type in

i would call dende with haveing (sic) learning problems but i think a phone or some other method would be better

Gem: I pity those you teach.
Please refrain from using text speech like 'fyi' as children you teach will obviously end up like Dende.

Dende i have something to tell you go to a specal school you thick idiot have you been thick all your life you mental sod I bet every one argees with me about you

the next song title for michelle should be see food and eat it because as she isfrom glasgow the only food she ever eats is deep fried pies and thats from the blue logoon in the city centre i am a true brit and i hate fat girls from scotland not only that michelle makes miss piggy look sexy

i dont think its right critisising people we cant all b skinny minnies can we and none of us have got the perfect body michelle is a gentle girl with a bubbly personality and michelle winning pop idol proves that whateva your size you can achieve what u want and follow your dream if that what makes u happy get a life u lot and c if u can make millions of pounds then good luck michelle x

Hello its me again im with Mathew on this dende thing DENDE NEEDS TO GO TO A SPICAL SCHOOL AS HE IS SO THICK THICK HEAD THATS WHAT YOU ARE DENDE

Did any one read my comment on dende have a look and it tells you wat a SPAZ he really his

Brock, what the hell is a spical school?? Seems to me you may need some help yourself!!
Paolo baby - I am touched - but I'm not sure about the Rik Waller thing!!!
Matthew - can we please not have a return to going on incessantly about Michelle's weight - it's getting old!!
Gem, well done - I like your posts - and like you , whilst not always agreeing with the views of others, they are entertaining!!

Carol - thanks for your kind words. The world would be a boring place if we all agreed on everything. A little debate makes life more interesting, as long as it doesn't get personal!
Not Gem - pity them all you like. They neither need nor deserve your pity. They are intelligent students. They may occasionally suffer from typical uni morning 'illnesses' but even hungover they at least know that fyi is not text speak but is in fact an anocronym widely used in both business and general e-mail communication.
Evidence of another universla truth - you can't please everyone. Use real words and Toemauk thinks I'm being long winded ; use abbreviations and Not Gem thinks I'm setting a bad example to future generations.

I just read about dende i think he is such a joke .Dende did you have specal needs at school cause you still need it no one is going to take pity on you i bet you have no freinds BILLY NO MATES

well, it looked for a short time that you might not make it, but well done, over 500 posts of inane drivel ... I like to think I played my part in the early stages, but clearly I couldn't compete with the quality that has been posted since.

you must be very proud chris!

This is the final sraw im not being calld anymre abut my learing problems what the fuck i dn too yu (nick.mathew.brock)i am naming you now.i bet you are not brght sparks yoursef.might i advce you to keep your mouth sut.if you think im so thick how come i won compitions in jdo.nowisnt that dunb

Gem is obviously very very dull..either that or a god botherer..or possibly both.

Can we stick to the big issue i.e Michelle on this forum rather than squabbling over who is the most retarded..glad to see that shame regarding your poetry hasnt stopped you posting here Carol :-)

Sophie, my shame knows no bounds!!!!
And come on, I thought it was pretty good - you can even sing along!
Dende, clearly your learning difficulties don't make it difficult for you to spell rude words!
Mike, we are proud indeed, quite an achievement - more than 500 posts - inane drivel maybe but highly entertaining!

The abuse towards Dende is all obviously coming from one person posting under several nicks.

Now, ladies and gents, The Meaning Of Love - new chart entry at... oh dear... sixteen. When a new artist does so badly at such an early stage then usually the record company drops them. One also has to remember that Simon Cowell is not known for his generosity.

Is it the end ??

When did Michelle release the new single ? It was'nt advetised very much in the media maybe that is why it is only at "16". Can I ask where u all are from, Just bieng nosey :)

Dende is the same person as the so called group insulting him. So he's just having a slanging match with himself.
Dull.
Perhaps they should use different email addresses when posting to make it less obvious.

Oh and back on topic, Michelle should have gone into the charts at number 22 as that is her dress size.

I am not Dende. He is a thick wanker.

She's had her number 1 and it's all down hill form here on in..the Scots who bought her 1st single have now run out of giro/pocket money so thats it! cruise ships and mind numbing daytime tv now beckons.

I didn't see it advertised either Madge.
I like the song.
Whilst I love Michelle and think her voice is great, unless she finds her own style I fear she won't last long in the pop world.
Will Young has managed to do just that and I reckon he's got a great career in front of him.
Tried to get tickets for his concert and failed - gutted!!

hope you ladies are well and having a good easter weekend! I am doing great but obviously disappointed at the chart position of the 2nd single. I have been in talks with both 19 and BMG and we realise what hasnt worked and we move on to an uptempo 3rd single. I want to thank you for your wonderful support and I need to say I am still really proud to be in the top 20. Michelle----- This was posted on her website hope she finds a song to suit her and the fans.

Get a life the lot of you Michelle was only contestant like anybody else its great how you can arrange a persons life behind a computer. You might be there yourself one day and end up with the same people pulling you apart. One or two of you have got the right answer in her favour. Michelle is quite happy if she makes it FINE if she does'nt FINE she got there and thats enough She is Scots and a happy one like most of us. English you are not happy unless you own everybody. Michelle got up and sang for herself. She won! So what. She is pure, Last year we got a poof so what, nobody was nasty about that and he was English. It takes all types. And Paolo Find a corner and die.

So basically what Michelle is saying in that post Madge is she only wants to release songs that sell well rather than songs she likes and are inline with what she wants to do artistically..its such bollocks it really is..it's not cans of processed peas she's trying to sell.

Can we please stop all this anti- English and Scottish racism, it's quite sad really - and childish. Can we all live in peace people?

Can we please stop all this anti- English and Scottish racism, it's quite sad really - and childish. Can we all live in peace people?

Can we please stop all this anti- English and Scottish racism, it's quite sad really - and childish. Can we all live in peace people?

Can we please stop all this anti- English and Scottish racism, it's quite sad really - and childish. Can we all live in peace people?

Think you're being a bit harsh Sophie, all artists want to be successful and that usually means recording songs that sell. What's wrong with trying to find songs that appeal to the listening public? - doesn't mean she's selling out as you seem to be suggesting.
Good post Me and Myself.

I totally agree with you carol. I think if something is'nt working you should try and fix it and I think that is what Michelle and her team are doing. I hope she finds her niche as it would be a shame if she bowed out after such a short time.

Please stop trying to learn the English language 'Me and Myself', those translation websites don't work very well./

Fatty McFat
Fatty McFat

I think The Large One may be being a trifle optimistic if she thinks she'll get a third single. Remember that other Scotch luminary, David Sneddon ? Mind you, he was a bit of a twat though wasn't he. I bet that when Chris set up this forum he never anticipated that it would last longer than her career.

I'm disappointed, Carol, that you were considering attending a concert by that wet little pooftah Will Young. I would have thought that you'd prefer a real man.

What happened to Roxanne's singing career ? I read that Cowell had signed her up after Pop Idol. Isn't it about time that she graced the music channels with her beauteous presence ? Does anyone have any information ? Sophie ? I know that you're a fan too becuase you said how much you desired her in one of your poems.

I like totaly agree with every thing you said paolo

Using the search term, 'Michelle McManus' on Google reveals this site to be the eighth most popular Michelle forum on the Internet.

Obviously that's not saying much (No. 38 after 2 weeks! Terrible!), but well done and thanks to everyone who's posted.

Harsh Paolo!!!
Will may be gay but he is attractive and very talented - much like the lovely George Michael!!
I'm still trying for tickets.

Now, if it's a "real" man I'm looking for - are you volunteering babe?!!

Whilst Roxanne can sing, she's a bit dull - no career for her I fear. I am a bit surprised Sam hasn't had a solo single out by now.

Well done on a great forum Chris!!

Tut, Tut, Paolo. Will Young is great, And as for David Sneddon it was his choice to stop singing and concentrate on his writing. As for Roxanne she is just a daft wee lassie I think Sam and Mark should get together they are talented.

Sam and Mark get together ? What an interesting idea. I'm surprised that no-one has thought of it before. They could release a really turgid version of an old Beatle's number as their first single. :)

Paolo, If you last post was aimed at me you have wasted your energy and typing skills. I know Mark and Sam got together to do that awful
Beatles song. What I meant was they should get together as a proper duo and bring out some more songs. Preferably not Beatle covers.

If Michelle can find her niche as quickly as she can find her fridge then her career may even last up until June..if like Sam and Mark Michelle and Gareth Gates release a single would they call it Cow & Gates?..your right Paolo I lurve Roxanne she make me do a sex wee.

There was a fat bird called Michelle,
Who somehow escaped from her cell,
She wasn't a singer,
Unless for her dinner,
Oh how i wish she'd go to hell.

ilove you paolo marry me

Hiya every1 how u all doin, Been reading some of your posts cool or wot. Any young sexy guys on here? if so leave me a message.

hi sexonlegs im avalible if you want me

Well HeLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO Brucie, Where you at ?

hello sexonlegs i live in the Oldham are were do you come from mybe we could get together Hotlips

Paolo us two will get married you can have my kids we were meant to be together you can spank me on the arse with a pitch fork if you like baby

christ you're a loser bruce

Well Brucie, I am sorry but you stay far,far away from me don't think we will be able to get together, So you will just have to dream about me instead.:)

Amy - fight you for him!!!

Hiya everyone, Carol U can't be serious :) You going to fight for Paolo, I will hold the coats.

Lol Madge!!!
I probably should get out more!!! :)

MARK RHODES HAS GOT MORETALENT THAN LARDARSE MICHELLE, HES BETTER LOOKING, CAN SING BETTER, IVE GOT ABOUT A MILLION LARDY JOKES AND CANNOT THINK OF ANY FOR MARK SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU....MICHELLE LOOKS LIKE AN OVERGROWN HAGGIS

MARK RHODES HAS GOT MORETALENT THAN LARDARSE MICHELLE, HES BETTER LOOKING, CAN SING BETTER, IVE GOT ABOUT A MILLION LARDY JOKES AND CANNOT THINK OF ANY FOR MARK SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU....MICHELLE LOOKS LIKE AN OVERGROWN HAGGIS

Fantastic picture in the Daily Mail today of Fishelle FatFanius in a swimsuit.
She's gorgeous.

Well it looks as if one or two of the ladies are getting a liile frisky. I'm really sorry to disappoint you both but the chemistry between Madge and myself is there for all to see. But if Madge doesn't work out, then you never know.....

Now what's all this in the Daily Mail about Roxanne and Michelle moving in together ? Presumably this is a platonic arrangement ? If not then I sincerely hope that during any intimacy Michelle isn't going to be the one on top. Poor Roxy would get literally flattened.

The photograph of Michelle was quite frightening actually. Her legs are each thicker than my waist. 15st? I really don't think so. At least 5st heavier I would say. Now that her career is in decline expect to see her in the next series of Celebrity Fat Club. Remember where you read it first.

Paolo we suold get marryed im carrying your kids

Sexonlegs were do you come from

Why Paolo!!!!, How sweet of you :) But alas my heart belongs to someone else. So Carol, Amy and the others feel free to fight for him. My heart will be broken but I will get over it LOL.

I saw a picture of her the other day in a suit of armour..either that or she was in 1 of those new minis.

I think your completely wrong about her and if you knew her would you still write this? Probably not so whats the difference? Sorry if I spelt that wrong. I really adore her and I voted for her lots so back off okay. What has she done to you? I'm a REAL fan of hers and I've got all her cd's. Even Simon Cowell wanted her to win so lay off her! She's FAB! Just stop this website okay otherwise............. I'll.....BE VERY ANNOYED AND YOU WONT LIKE ME WHEN I'M ANNOYED!

Hi it's me again Olivia and dont actually close the website coz I'd like to see how many more annoyed posts you get!

OMG!!!! a disaster, my screen has gone all blurred - all the posts on top of each other - oooer Paolo - hope i'm on top of you!!!!
HELP - any ideas anyone???

Yes Carol, I suggest you take it easy on the vodka in future. :)

Or should I say, the Scotch.

I'm gonna kill you all!

paolo i want to have your kids
carol hands off he is mine

I'm depressed - I can't read the posts, they're all on top of each other still!!

Have you ever considered a job in IT Carol?

whats the matter carol takeing to my drugs

Paolo i bet you are so ansome how old are you baby anyone else trying to get my man i will break everybone i n there body COME ON PAOLO TREAT ME LIKE THE FLIFHY BITCH THAT I AM.

Love Lucy :)***

Lucy please learn how to use a dictonary it might help you to spell probely

What the fuck is probely dude?

Richard Whitely Might i advice you to keep your trap shut you freak

Vicky what does this mean - "takeing to my drugs"

Lucy what is - "FLIFHY"

Imran what is a - "dictonary"

You monkeys.

I'ts advise Nick not advice..did you not go to school you tool?

I did go to School .It seems very clearly that you didnt go did you RichardWhitely and what is the word tool

Fatty or whatever your name is or have you not got a name are you insluting me because im asian. im not a monkey Leave me and the others you have insluted alone

I like Eggs thank you for reading

Shut it Imran. Learn to spell.

Abdul May i tell you to shut your trap i can spell .If you want to call me even more i will give you my email adress it is Imran@e-garfield.com COME ON THEN CALL ME

nice to see the level of debate is coming along well here ...

What the fuck is an "adress" then Imran.

Call you???? How would i be calling you with only an email address, i need your phone number.

Abdul you know what im talking about if you want to insult me then email me then. or are you scared ?????can you only call people whilst you are sat on your backside lookin at a screen.put your brain in gear before you come up with anymore insluts for any other people before they stike back at you.

If anyone has any insluts for me as well they can phone me on richardwhitely@hotmail.com or e-mail me on 07779653211 or alternatively fax me on my pager. Thanks ta

Hey Igor, you suck eggs.

Hey Imran, your butt smells.

I see that this forum has totally degenerated in my absence. Witless posts full of obscenities, bad language, appalling punctuation, dreadful spelling. What is this country coming to ?
It's not the world I grew up in, that's for sure.

I really do think that people below a certain intellectual level should be prohibited from using the internet.

Also I have to disappoint the predatory young ladies on this forum. I'm sorry but I only date sweet virginal girls with wholesome family values.

I saw the fat mess from Inverness on tv the other day and she appears to have put weight on..d'you think that when she reverses onto the toilet to unload that days intake of pies she emits a beep like a lorry reversing? followed by what sounds like a skip lorry unloading?

Eggs like you to Igor..thats because you both have the same intelligence level.

Michelle is a large mutant who likes food.....
Igor is a large mutant who likes eggs.....
My god they are one and the same.

Michelle has been secretley posting on this website about her delight for food.

I know im Gay and im proud of it anyone got any comments about my sexuality please say now

Paolo i have got family vaules
marry me i know you want to .You know we were meant to be to together

Igor is an egg loving chutney ferret..chase me chase me chase me!

Paul i have one word to say to you I love you i really fancy you....... yes i admit im a egg lover i sleep with eggs but im planing to sleep Bacon next isnt that good

whoever is dende, igor, imran should stop using @e-garfield in all their posts so as not to make it so obvious that you are one and the same person

I think all of those negative fuckers can fuck off!!! Michelle McManus did obviously not send off a message saying a load of crap about pollutin and being ugly. Get real. She is fantastic and nuttin will ever change that. SHE'S NOT FAT SHE'S FANTASTIC!! SHIT to BO-SELECTA!

You fuckers still at it....The world laughs at you all not with you.

Michelle is a fat stinker.. down wif her.. never let her out of her house again! YUK!

Michelle is a fat stinker.. down wif her.. never let her out of her house again! YUK!

Michelle is a fat stinker.. down wif her.. never let her out of her house again! YUK!

Michelle is a fat stinker.. down wif her.. never let her out of her house again! YUK!

Michelle is a fat stinker.. down wif her.. never let her out of her house again! YUK!

Michelle is a fat stinker.. down wif her.. never let her out of her house again! YUK!

Michelle is a fat stinker.. down wif her.. never let her out of her house again! YUK!

Michelle is a fat stinker.. down wif her.. never let her out of her house again! YUK!

To LAUREN who posted that English are pigs...there are laws against racism and whether you are black or white, any kind of remark that against someone from another country is still RACIST!

You disgust me.

LOOK ON LIME WIRE AND YOU WILL SEE THE FAT COW FALL OFF HER BIKE BEFORE SHE MANAGED TO SLEEP HER WAY INTO POP IDOL. FAT BIRDS CAN SING BUT THATS ALL THAY CAN DO. !!!!

do u know i cant believe i even lowered myself to come into this site dont take it out on the big people its not ur fault your so ugly blame ur mam she dropped u on ur head not michelle that could be ur mam sister even ur daughter think about that and its people like u that have the suicide rate so high in this country

THANK YOU TO ALL OF MY FANS WHO HAVE BEEN STICKING UP FOR ME! BUT IT IS TRUE, I AM A FAT,MAHOOSIVE, SCOTTISH BIRD. I DID NOT DESERVE TO WIN POP IDOL AND I WILL NOT BE BRINGING ANYMORE SONGS OUT IN THE FUTURE AS I RECENTLY PLUCKED UP THE COURAGE TO LISTEN TO ONE OF MY OWN SONGS AND REALISED IT WAS COMPLETE SHITE. THANKS FOR READING THIS , I AM OFF TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK NOW .PS PLEASE CHECK OUT EBAY FOR BAGS OF MY FAT WHICH I WILL BE HAVING REMOVED AND PUTTING UP FOR AUTION. XX LOVE MICHELLE

hi just want to say that i am in love with michelle and i thinks she's great !!!! am looking forward to her next albumn, ps michelle will you marry me?

hi just want to say that i am in love with michelle and i thinks she's great !!!! am looking forward to her next albumn, ps michelle will you marry me?

hi just want to say that i am in love with michelle and i thinks she's great !!!! am looking forward to her next albumn, ps michelle will you marry me?

michelle please will you marry me, i'd love to have my face burried in your hot sweaty arse crack an then put my head underneath your armpit once you've walked up three flights of stairs x let me know if you'll marry me call my number : 0989-698979

MICHELLE MCMUNTUS IS A FAT MUNTER... AND EMANY LIKES HER VERY MUCH

MICHELLE MCMUNTUS IS A FAT MUNTER... AND EMANY LIKES HER VERY MUCH

MICHELLE MCMUNTUS IS A FAT MUNTER... AND EMANY LIKES HER VERY MUCH

MUNTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

What you all fail to realise is that when the voting was done regarding Michille McManus that the voting was aggrigated and claerly showed that 67.6% of the voting public that voted for her to win on the night were and if anyone had bothered to do the research regarding this fact would have found in fact the voters were "ENGLISH..........

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